[sf-lug] sf-lug.com disabled: Fwd: Joker.com: Your domain 'sf-lug.com' has been scheduled for deletion

jim jim at well.com
Fri Jul 5 18:05:54 PDT 2019 

about a week ago (I recall June 29)
I paid Joker.com for renewal of
SF-LUG.{org,com} for the next twelve
months, to expire on July 2, 2020.

Seems to me the .org domain name should
be cannonical.

I did not promise to reimburse anyone
and cannot keep such a promise.

This is not my web site, it is our
web site.

Al, I read your email as suggesting
that you help care for this. Please
suggest something specific.

Note sf-lug is meeting Sunday, July
7 at the Cafe Enchante from 11 AM
to 1 PM. We can bring any ideas up
for discussion.



On 7/5/19 8:50 PM, Michael Paoli wrote:
> Al,
>
> Thanks on your interest/offer.  :-)
>
> Jim Stockford and myself have (at least primary) access/control
> of sf-lug.org and sf-lug.com - most notably access to the registrant
> account on those, access to change DNS delegation(s), transfer, etc.
>
> I've got no objections to adding you on the sf-lug.com account on
> that.  Jim can do that, or if he states that's okay, I can go ahead and
> add you (likewise for sf-lug.org if he so consents).
>
> "Need" SF-LUG.COM / should keep it?  As far as I'm aware, SF-LUG has been
> deafeningly silent on that matter.  I've presumed from the (much) earlier
> that the answer to that would be that yes, the intent/desire is to keep
> it.  However, the relatively near complete actions to move on that
> might suggest otherwise ... but then on the other hand, in more recent
> years, I've not seen SF-LUG do all that much regarding definitive
> action(s)/statements, other than some handful of folks or so showing
> up in a cafe generally twice a month for meetings.
>
> As for SF-LUG.ORG, that is still the canonical.  I volunteered to cover
> that one - including paying for domain renewal - and especially if no one
> else could/would cover that.  (and also looks like this time around,
> after I'd renewed it and so stated on list, someone later came along and
> renewed/extended it for an additional year).
>
> As for the others
> (sf-lug.com, sflug.org, sflug.com, sflug.net), well, that depends what
> SF-LUG folk(s) (and including yourself :-)) are willing and able to do,
> including paying the domain renewals.  Paraphrasing from memory, last
> I recall (and it's on-list somewhere) Jim stated something about intent
> that I seem to recall stated or implied keeping all 5
> (sf-lug.org, sf-lug.com, sflug.org, sflug.com, sflug.net),
> that sf-lug.org was to remain the canonical, and that Jim was willing to
> and would reimburse folks for paying for those domain
> acquisitions/renewals.
>
> In the meantime, sf-lug.com - *anyone* can pay to have it renewed.
> I'm not paying for that one or non-canonicals, nor fronting the
> funds for renewals/acquisitions - but that doesn't prevent other(s)
> from so doing.
>
> I was also thinking bit earlier sf-lug.com. could do with some more
> DNS nameservers ... but I deferred that - figure we can deal with that
> if/after sf-lug.com gets renewed - I figure no use putting effort into
> it if folks may just opt to drop that flat on the floor anyway.
>
>> From: Al <awsflug at sunnyside.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] sf-lug.com disabled: Fwd: Joker.com: Your 
>> domain 'sf-lug.com' has been scheduled for deletion
>> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 08:40:50 -0700
>
>> Michael,
>> I've lost track of who you said was responsible for the registration 
>> for sf-lug.org and sf-lug.com, but
>> I think I'm remembering it was only Jim that had any access.
>> Is that true?  Or do you have access?
>> FWIW I am willing to take it on and put it on auto-renew the way 
>> sflug.{org,net,com} are.
>> On the other hand do we need it?  I don't see any active discussion 
>> on sf-lug of the administration
>> aspect, except from you and occasionally Rick.
>> Al
>>
>> On 7/5/2019 08:26, Michael Paoli wrote:
>>> SF-LUG.COM is now disabled (by registrar).
>>> So, unless/until someone renews it or the like, we
>>> (start to say) bye-bye to sf-lug.com
>>> It's no longer delegated in DNS, so that renders it
>>> non-operational.  (It still shows the nameservers in the
>>> whois(1) data, but registrar has pulled the delegation).
>>>
>>> references/excerpts:
>>> $ (tld=com; sd=sf-lug; set -x; dig @$(dig +short "$tld". NS | head 
>>> -n 1) +noall +norecurse +authority +nottl "$sd"."$tld". NS)
>>> ++ dig +short com. NS
>>> ++ head -n 1
>>> + dig @j.gtld-servers.net. +noall +norecurse +authority +nottl 
>>> sf-lug.com. NS
>>> com.                    IN      SOA     a.gtld-servers.net. 
>>> nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1562340012 1800 900 604800 86400
>>> $ whois -h whois.joker.com sf-lug.com 2>&1 | egrep '^(Updated 
>>> Date|Domain Status|Name Server):'
>>> Updated Date: 2019-07-04T07:08:41Z
>>> Domain Status: clientHold https://icann.org/epp#clientHold
>>> Name Server: ns.primate.net
>>> Name Server: ns1.linuxmafia.com
>>> Name Server: ns1.sf-lug.com
>>> $
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded message from renewal-support at joker.com -----
>>>     Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 00:35:31 +0200
>>>     From: "Joker.com Renewal Reminder" <renewal-support at joker.com>
>>>  Subject: Joker.com: Your domain 'sf-lug.com' has been scheduled for 
>>> deletion
>>>
>>> Dear valued customer of Joker.com,
>>>
>>> This is a reminder to kindly inform you that your domain
>>>
>>> ########################################
>>>
>>> sf-lug.com
>>>
>>> has expired on: 2019-07-02 (YYYY-MM-DD)
>>>
>>> ########################################
>>>
>>> This domain  is registered  with Joker.com as your ICANN accredited 
>>> Registrar, and has expired 2 days ago on 2019-07-02.
>>>
>>> This means that your domain has been DISABLED on 2019-07-02.
>>>
>>> You have received this reminder, because our records show that you 
>>> are one of the following contacts of this domain:
>>>   * Assignment Role Account (Owner, mainly responsible)
>>>   * Administrative Role Account (modifications)
>>>   * Billing Role Account (renewals)
>>>
>>> Please visit Joker.com <https://joker.com/goto/renew11> to renew 
>>> your domain.
>>> Please be aware that your domain will be deleted soon,  if not renewed.
>>> We advise you to renew as soon as possible, at least one (1) day 
>>> before the announced expiration date. The new term is always added 
>>> to the current term, there is no disadvantage when the renew is done 
>>> in advance.
>>>
>>> Some additional information:
>>>   * in case there is a problem with your Joker.com account, you are 
>>> always free to use our "simple renewal" 
>>> <https://joker.com/goto/renew13>, which allows to renew any domain 
>>> without any overhead
>>>   * you find the specification of renewal reminders and domain terms 
>>> here: <https://joker.com/goto/policies>
>>>   * additional documentation is provided by our FAQ: 
>>> <https://joker.com/faq>
>>>   * this reminder is sent to the registrant, the account holder and 
>>> possibly other roles of the listed domains. This can be changed in 
>>> "My domains": <https://joker.com/goto/modify>
>>>
>>> If you are a reseller and you have received this reminder, please 
>>> contact  Joker.com,  using the support area.
>>>
>>> Thank you for using Joker.com!
>>>
>>> Best Regards, Your Joker.com-Team
>>> Date:  2019-07-03 22:35:31
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>> Joker.com is provided by
>>> CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH
>>> Hansaallee 191-193
>>> DE-40549 Duesseldorf
>>> Germany
>>> https://joker.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
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