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<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">about a week ago (I
recall June 29) <br>
I paid Joker.com for renewal of <br>
SF-LUG.{org,com} for the next twelve <br>
months, to expire on July 2, 2020. <br>
<br>
Seems to me the .org domain name should <br>
be cannonical. <br>
<br>
I did not promise to reimburse anyone <br>
and cannot keep such a promise. <br>
<br>
This is not my web site, it is our <br>
web site. <br>
<br>
Al, I read your email as suggesting <br>
that you help care for this. Please <br>
suggest something specific. <br>
<br>
Note sf-lug is meeting Sunday, July <br>
7 at the Cafe Enchante from 11 AM <br>
to 1 PM. We can bring any ideas up <br>
for discussion. <br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/5/19 8:50 PM, Michael Paoli wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:20190705175012.11712exkvkz4l2kg@webmail.rawbw.com">Al,
<br>
<br>
Thanks on your interest/offer. :-)
<br>
<br>
Jim Stockford and myself have (at least primary) access/control
<br>
of sf-lug.org and sf-lug.com - most notably access to the
registrant
<br>
account on those, access to change DNS delegation(s), transfer,
etc.
<br>
<br>
I've got no objections to adding you on the sf-lug.com account on
<br>
that. Jim can do that, or if he states that's okay, I can go
ahead and
<br>
add you (likewise for sf-lug.org if he so consents).
<br>
<br>
"Need" SF-LUG.COM / should keep it? As far as I'm aware, SF-LUG
has been
<br>
deafeningly silent on that matter. I've presumed from the (much)
earlier
<br>
that the answer to that would be that yes, the intent/desire is to
keep
<br>
it. However, the relatively near complete actions to move on that
<br>
might suggest otherwise ... but then on the other hand, in more
recent
<br>
years, I've not seen SF-LUG do all that much regarding definitive
<br>
action(s)/statements, other than some handful of folks or so
showing
<br>
up in a cafe generally twice a month for meetings.
<br>
<br>
As for SF-LUG.ORG, that is still the canonical. I volunteered to
cover
<br>
that one - including paying for domain renewal - and especially if
no one
<br>
else could/would cover that. (and also looks like this time
around,
<br>
after I'd renewed it and so stated on list, someone later came
along and
<br>
renewed/extended it for an additional year).
<br>
<br>
As for the others
<br>
(sf-lug.com, sflug.org, sflug.com, sflug.net), well, that depends
what
<br>
SF-LUG folk(s) (and including yourself :-)) are willing and able
to do,
<br>
including paying the domain renewals. Paraphrasing from memory,
last
<br>
I recall (and it's on-list somewhere) Jim stated something about
intent
<br>
that I seem to recall stated or implied keeping all 5
<br>
(sf-lug.org, sf-lug.com, sflug.org, sflug.com, sflug.net),
<br>
that sf-lug.org was to remain the canonical, and that Jim was
willing to
<br>
and would reimburse folks for paying for those domain
<br>
acquisitions/renewals.
<br>
<br>
In the meantime, sf-lug.com - *anyone* can pay to have it renewed.
<br>
I'm not paying for that one or non-canonicals, nor fronting the
<br>
funds for renewals/acquisitions - but that doesn't prevent
other(s)
<br>
from so doing.
<br>
<br>
I was also thinking bit earlier sf-lug.com. could do with some
more
<br>
DNS nameservers ... but I deferred that - figure we can deal with
that
<br>
if/after sf-lug.com gets renewed - I figure no use putting effort
into
<br>
it if folks may just opt to drop that flat on the floor anyway.
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">From: Al <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:awsflug@sunnyside.com"><awsflug@sunnyside.com></a>
<br>
Subject: Re: [sf-lug] sf-lug.com disabled: Fwd: Joker.com: Your
domain 'sf-lug.com' has been scheduled for deletion
<br>
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 08:40:50 -0700
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Michael,
<br>
I've lost track of who you said was responsible for the
registration for sf-lug.org and sf-lug.com, but
<br>
I think I'm remembering it was only Jim that had any access.
<br>
Is that true? Or do you have access?
<br>
FWIW I am willing to take it on and put it on auto-renew the way
sflug.{org,net,com} are.
<br>
On the other hand do we need it? I don't see any active
discussion on sf-lug of the administration
<br>
aspect, except from you and occasionally Rick.
<br>
Al
<br>
<br>
On 7/5/2019 08:26, Michael Paoli wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">SF-LUG.COM is now disabled (by
registrar).
<br>
So, unless/until someone renews it or the like, we
<br>
(start to say) bye-bye to sf-lug.com
<br>
It's no longer delegated in DNS, so that renders it
<br>
non-operational. (It still shows the nameservers in the
<br>
whois(1) data, but registrar has pulled the delegation).
<br>
<br>
references/excerpts:
<br>
$ (tld=com; sd=sf-lug; set -x; dig @$(dig +short "$tld". NS |
head -n 1) +noall +norecurse +authority +nottl "$sd"."$tld".
NS)
<br>
++ dig +short com. NS
<br>
++ head -n 1
<br>
+ dig @j.gtld-servers.net. +noall +norecurse +authority +nottl
sf-lug.com. NS
<br>
com. IN SOA a.gtld-servers.net.
nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1562340012 1800 900 604800 86400
<br>
$ whois -h whois.joker.com sf-lug.com 2>&1 | egrep
'^(Updated Date|Domain Status|Name Server):'
<br>
Updated Date: 2019-07-04T07:08:41Z
<br>
Domain Status: clientHold <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://icann.org/epp#clientHold">https://icann.org/epp#clientHold</a>
<br>
Name Server: ns.primate.net
<br>
Name Server: ns1.linuxmafia.com
<br>
Name Server: ns1.sf-lug.com
<br>
$
<br>
<br>
----- Forwarded message from <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:renewal-support@joker.com">renewal-support@joker.com</a> -----
<br>
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 00:35:31 +0200
<br>
From: "Joker.com Renewal Reminder"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:renewal-support@joker.com"><renewal-support@joker.com></a>
<br>
Subject: Joker.com: Your domain 'sf-lug.com' has been
scheduled for deletion
<br>
<br>
Dear valued customer of Joker.com,
<br>
<br>
This is a reminder to kindly inform you that your domain
<br>
<br>
########################################
<br>
<br>
sf-lug.com
<br>
<br>
has expired on: 2019-07-02 (YYYY-MM-DD)
<br>
<br>
########################################
<br>
<br>
This domain is registered with Joker.com as your ICANN
accredited Registrar, and has expired 2 days ago on
2019-07-02.
<br>
<br>
This means that your domain has been DISABLED on 2019-07-02.
<br>
<br>
You have received this reminder, because our records show that
you are one of the following contacts of this domain:
<br>
* Assignment Role Account (Owner, mainly responsible)
<br>
* Administrative Role Account (modifications)
<br>
* Billing Role Account (renewals)
<br>
<br>
Please visit Joker.com <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://joker.com/goto/renew11"><https://joker.com/goto/renew11></a>
to renew your domain.
<br>
Please be aware that your domain will be deleted soon, if not
renewed.
<br>
We advise you to renew as soon as possible, at least one (1)
day before the announced expiration date. The new term is
always added to the current term, there is no disadvantage
when the renew is done in advance.
<br>
<br>
Some additional information:
<br>
* in case there is a problem with your Joker.com account,
you are always free to use our "simple renewal"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://joker.com/goto/renew13"><https://joker.com/goto/renew13></a>, which allows to renew
any domain without any overhead
<br>
* you find the specification of renewal reminders and domain
terms here: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://joker.com/goto/policies"><https://joker.com/goto/policies></a>
<br>
* additional documentation is provided by our FAQ:
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://joker.com/faq"><https://joker.com/faq></a>
<br>
* this reminder is sent to the registrant, the account
holder and possibly other roles of the listed domains. This
can be changed in "My domains":
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://joker.com/goto/modify"><https://joker.com/goto/modify></a>
<br>
<br>
If you are a reseller and you have received this reminder,
please contact Joker.com, using the support area.
<br>
<br>
Thank you for using Joker.com!
<br>
<br>
Best Regards, Your Joker.com-Team
<br>
Date: 2019-07-03 22:35:31
<br>
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<br>
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<br>
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<br>
Hansaallee 191-193
<br>
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<br>
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<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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----- End forwarded message -----
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