[sf-lug] Ended Monday Evening meetings!; web site updated, ...

[jim]

thank you for acting. forgiveness issued.

I plan to hang out at Cafe Enchante on
Monday, the 16th, just in case someone
shows up not knowing of the change.

All is well, better, even.

More thanks.



On 9/9/19 10:36 PM, Michael Paoli wrote:
> Pardons if I might've (slightly) jumped the gun, but ...
> based on the evidence, etc.:
> o The clock was counting down towards 3rd Monday and getting
>   increasingly close - takes bit 'o time to update things,
>   and folks ought know as reasonably far in advance as feasible
>   (many may only look at the web pages - or mostly just do that).
> o consensus totally unfeasible - SF-LUG has approximately 281 members,
>   exceedingly improbable all would ever vote on anything regarding
>   SF-LUG
> o plurality opinion/discussion on list was highly to exceedingly in
>   favor of dropping Monday meetings
> o Jim stated he could no longer support Monday meetings
> o Bobbie stated she couldn't support Monday meetings (or at least not
>   the full time range thereof) without ride home from Monday meetings,
>   and nobody spoke up to cover the ride thing.
> o Nobody spoke up saying anything approximating "We should continue
>   Monday meetings!" and/or "I'll volunteer to be there for the Monday
>   meetings or arrange that at least someone will be there if I can't!"
> o if we go by (older?) decision tree, Jim is "head honcho" of SF-LUG,
>   and Bobbie backup / 2nd in command thereof - both also effectively
>   nixed the idea of continuing or them being able to support Monday
>   meetings.
>
> Anyway, at least as I took the above (and pardons my paraphrasing and/or
> possibly (slight?) inaccuracies or in characterizations thereof), that
> pretty much pointed rather definitively at a Monday meetings need end
> and things need be updated - ongoing inconclusive debate/discussion on
> list (and with no updates to web site) just muddies the waters.
>
> So ... I took the actions, based on list discussions, evidence, etc.,
> to make the updates to the web site to end the Monday meetings,
> likewise inform list via posting (and notably update Subject: header
> so it was no longer a question), also updated the relevant
> Google calendar, and notified Rick (maintainer of The BALE).
>
> And I've still not seen anyone take any definitive actions to
> countermand that, by well/reasonably arguing to continue Monday
> meetings and/or do the needed volunteering to make that happen, etc.
> The Monday meetings had also been reported as generally rather to quite
> sparsely attended.
>
> Anyway, folks are always welcome to volunteer.  Folks can volunteer to
> host the Monday meetings - and arrange folk(s) to be there to cover it
> if they can't, update web site, inform relevant folks to update other
> references/pointers, volunteer to give Bobbie a ride home from
> all the Monday meetings, etc.  Still waitin'.  <crickets>
>
> Oh, yeah, and gettin' just about anyone except me to update the web
> site (with perhaps some negligible exceptions - well, at least
> mostly historically in more recent year(s)), has been ... well, pulling
> teeth is much easier.  So I made the updates (despite several other folks
> having the requisite access to make the changes ... alas, I may see a bit
> 'o progress there ... but not (quite) yet to "published"/production (main
> web page, etc.).  So, at least for the most part it's been me that 
> ends up
> making the updates/corrections.  If I waited 'till the "list" decided
> any more definitively, might not have left me sufficient time to update
> the web page (I'm not on SF-LUG's beck and call to turn on a dime to
> address such matters or do such updates) - especially presuming nobody 
> else bothered to do it (which is most generally the case). So, I made the
> reasonable presumption that Monday meetings are history (or consensus, 
> etc.
> opinion was to make 'em so), and so I did so and made the changes.
>
>> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
>> Subject: Ended Monday Evening meetings!; web site updated, ... (was: 
>> Re: [sf-lug] End Monday Evening meetings? Please Discuss)
>> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2019 13:54:12 -0700
>
>> Looks like it was decided and done to me.
>> Maybe someone missed reading item(s) on the list:
>> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q3/014332.html
>>
>>> From: "Bobbie Sellers" <bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] End Monday Evening meetings? Please Discuss
>>> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2019 18:20:45 -0700
>>
>>> Hi LUGers.
>>>
>>>     Well it seems the issue has been decided.
>>>
>>>     Whoever decided forgot to post the decision to the list.
>>> but earlier today I decided to take a break from other matters
>>> and took a look at <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
>>> according to which:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     the next meeting is on October 6.
>>>
>>>     An announcement on the list would have been better
>>> but it seems that most of the participants in the discussion
>>> were negative about continuing the meeting so it was a
>>> only a small surprise.
>>>
>>>     Unless I find out something of interest to share in the
>>> next few weeks, the 30 of September will be the next time
>>> you hear from me.
>>>
>>>     Bobbie Sellers
>
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