[sf-lug] computer work at a public school this Saturday

[Andrew Udvare]

I agree it sounds like a good cause.

It's just that the subject is *possibly* incorrect in calling this a public
school.

On Friday, 27 July 2012, Dan Murphy wrote:

> Ok, my 2 cents.....
>
> How about something like "working on computers at a school".  Unless
> its a terrorist school, or has billions of dollars, seems like it's a
> good cause.  (If they have billions of dollars, I'd expect to get
> paid)
>
> Thereby avoiding the whole issue.
>
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Paul Ward <dssstrkl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In a past life working for government contractors, its been my experience
> > that federal and state agencies are very particular about how they spend
> > their money. There's a reason why both the contract and grant
> applications,
> > as well as preliminary and final reports tend to be as thick as your arm.
> >
> > The companies I worked for, OTOH, tended to blow money like it was going
> out
> > of style. Not saying my experience is the rule, but private industry has
> a
> > lot of overhead that government lacks.
> >
> > --
> > Paul Ward
> >
> > dssstrkl at gmail.com
> > @dssstrkl
> > dssstrkl.com
> >
> > On Friday, July 27, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Andrew Udvare wrote:
> >
> > I am somewhat in support of calling these public schools being that they
> use
> > public funding (and no, it would be better if it went to a 'real' public
> > school; government ALWAYS waste money; NEVER let the government touch any
> > money ever for any reason). I blame unions for most government failures.
> >
> > Charter school are usually open by first come first serve. Does that make
> > them public? And a number of spots are often raffled because teacher's
> > unions HATE charter schools because charter schools do a better job and
> the
> > teacher's unions cannot let this information out. They call this being
> > 'fair' (as if a lottery can be fair). In case you do not already know:
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Rhee#Chancellor_of_D.C._public_schools
> > . You can also watch 'Waiting for Superman' on YouTube.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents.
> > Andrew
> >
> > On Friday, 27 July 2012, Sean wrote:
> >
> > Good one. I agree with both of you, actually, but these do not seem to be
> > for-pay private schools for those who can afford it.  Understandably they
> > are
> > different from the usual municipal school district, but if still paid
> for by
> > taxes and free of tuition and (_presumably_) open to all; that's public
> > enough
> > to not be called private.  We could split hairs and call it 'alternative'
> > and
> > debate who owns the land, but the words "public" and "school" when
> together
> > not
> > sacrosanct.
> >
> > Anyone can follow Christian's references and read-up on the back story.
> > There
> > is no subterfuge intended here.
> >
> > FWIW I do hope to join this particular activity on some future occasion.
> >
> >
> > On 07/27/2012 01:29 PM, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com
> >> <mailto:rick at linuxmafia.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Quoting Jeff Bragg (jackofnotrades at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:jackofnotrades at gmail.com>):
> >>
> >>     > I believe you are missing Rick's point, which is not about whether
> >> or not
> >>     > public or private schools are a good thing, but rather about
> whether
> >> or not
> >>     > the school Christian refers to is in fact a public school.  Rick's
> >> point,
> >>     > if I understand correctly, is that the school in question is not
> >> actually a
> >>     > public school.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Regardless of one's view, Christian's repeated misrepresentation of
> >> fact
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick and I have a difference of opinion.  Neither Rick nor I have
> >> misrepresented
> >> a fact.  All the facts that I stated are true.  Any child in California
> >> can
> >> attend any KIPP school for free.  If KIPP is not public, who is paying
> for
> >> that
> >> child's tuition?  Answer:  taxes, just like all other public schools.
> >> Rick is
> >> not disputing tha
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