[sf-lug] computer work at a public school this Saturday
sean.channel at pacbell.net
Fri Jul 27 15:45:58 PDT 2012
I am interested in linux related discussions and events at various local
institutions, whatever their political situation.
I am not interested in politics or hair-splitting.
I don't care what Christian calls it. I'm glad to know about it, but not if I
have to deal with a flame cascade.
On 07/27/2012 03:13 PM, Andrew Udvare wrote:
> I agree it sounds like a good cause.
> It's just that the subject is *possibly* incorrect in calling this a public school.
> On Friday, 27 July 2012, Dan Murphy wrote:
> Ok, my 2 cents.....
> How about something like "working on computers at a school". Unless
> its a terrorist school, or has billions of dollars, seems like it's a
> good cause. (If they have billions of dollars, I'd expect to get
> Thereby avoiding the whole issue.
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Paul Ward <dssstrkl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In a past life working for government contractors, its been my experience
> > that federal and state agencies are very particular about how they spend
> > their money. There's a reason why both the contract and grant applications,
> > as well as preliminary and final reports tend to be as thick as your arm.
> > The companies I worked for, OTOH, tended to blow money like it was going out
> > of style. Not saying my experience is the rule, but private industry has a
> > lot of overhead that government lacks.
> > --
> > Paul Ward
> > dssstrkl at gmail.com
> > @dssstrkl
> > dssstrkl.com <http://dssstrkl.com>
> > On Friday, July 27, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Andrew Udvare wrote:
> > I am somewhat in support of calling these public schools being that they use
> > public funding (and no, it would be better if it went to a 'real' public
> > school; government ALWAYS waste money; NEVER let the government touch any
> > money ever for any reason). I blame unions for most government failures.
> > Charter school are usually open by first come first serve. Does that make
> > them public? And a number of spots are often raffled because teacher's
> > unions HATE charter schools because charter schools do a better job and the
> > teacher's unions cannot let this information out. They call this being
> > 'fair' (as if a lottery can be fair). In case you do not already know:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Rhee#Chancellor_of_D.C._public_schools
> > . You can also watch 'Waiting for Superman' on YouTube.
> > Just my 2 cents.
> > Andrew
> > On Friday, 27 July 2012, Sean wrote:
> > Good one. I agree with both of you, actually, but these do not seem to be
> > for-pay private schools for those who can afford it. Understandably they
> > are
> > different from the usual municipal school district, but if still paid for by
> > taxes and free of tuition and (_presumably_) open to all; that's public
> > enough
> > to not be called private. We could split hairs and call it 'alternative'
> > and
> > debate who owns the land, but the words "public" and "school" when together
> > not
> > sacrosanct.
> > Anyone can follow Christian's references and read-up on the back story.
> > There
> > is no subterfuge intended here.
> > FWIW I do hope to join this particular activity on some future occasion.
> > On 07/27/2012 01:29 PM, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com
> >> <mailto:rick at linuxmafia.com>> wrote:
> >> Quoting Jeff Bragg (jackofnotrades at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:jackofnotrades at gmail.com>):
> >> > I believe you are missing Rick's point, which is not about whether
> >> or not
> >> > public or private schools are a good thing, but rather about whether
> >> or not
> >> > the school Christian refers to is in fact a public school. Rick's
> >> point,
> >> > if I understand correctly, is that the school in question is not
> >> actually a
> >> > public school.
> >> Regardless of one's view, Christian's repeated misrepresentation of
> >> fact
> >> Rick and I have a difference of opinion. Neither Rick nor I have
> >> misrepresented
> >> a fact. All the facts that I stated are true. Any child in California
> >> can
> >> attend any KIPP school for free. If KIPP is not public, who is paying for
> >> that
> >> child's tuition? Answer: taxes, just like all other public schools.
> >> Rick is
> >> not disputing tha
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