[sf-lug] computer work at a public school this Saturday

[Sean]

I am interested in linux related discussions and events at various local
institutions, whatever their political situation.

I am not interested in politics or hair-splitting.

I don't care what Christian calls it.  I'm glad to know about it, but not if I
have to deal with a flame cascade.
_s


On 07/27/2012 03:13 PM, Andrew Udvare wrote:
> I agree it sounds like a good cause.
> 
> It's just that the subject is *possibly* incorrect in calling this a public school.
> 
> On Friday, 27 July 2012, Dan Murphy wrote:
> 
>     Ok, my 2 cents.....
> 
>     How about something like "working on computers at a school".  Unless
>     its a terrorist school, or has billions of dollars, seems like it's a
>     good cause.  (If they have billions of dollars, I'd expect to get
>     paid)
> 
>     Thereby avoiding the whole issue.
> 
>     On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Paul Ward <dssstrkl at gmail.com> wrote:
>     > In a past life working for government contractors, its been my experience
>     > that federal and state agencies are very particular about how they spend
>     > their money. There's a reason why both the contract and grant applications,
>     > as well as preliminary and final reports tend to be as thick as your arm.
>     >
>     > The companies I worked for, OTOH, tended to blow money like it was going out
>     > of style. Not saying my experience is the rule, but private industry has a
>     > lot of overhead that government lacks.
>     >
>     > --
>     > Paul Ward
>     >
>     > dssstrkl at gmail.com
>     > @dssstrkl
>     > dssstrkl.com <http://dssstrkl.com>
>     >
>     > On Friday, July 27, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Andrew Udvare wrote:
>     >
>     > I am somewhat in support of calling these public schools being that they use
>     > public funding (and no, it would be better if it went to a 'real' public
>     > school; government ALWAYS waste money; NEVER let the government touch any
>     > money ever for any reason). I blame unions for most government failures.
>     >
>     > Charter school are usually open by first come first serve. Does that make
>     > them public? And a number of spots are often raffled because teacher's
>     > unions HATE charter schools because charter schools do a better job and the
>     > teacher's unions cannot let this information out. They call this being
>     > 'fair' (as if a lottery can be fair). In case you do not already know:
>     > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Rhee#Chancellor_of_D.C._public_schools
>     > . You can also watch 'Waiting for Superman' on YouTube.
>     >
>     > Just my 2 cents.
>     > Andrew
>     >
>     > On Friday, 27 July 2012, Sean wrote:
>     >
>     > Good one. I agree with both of you, actually, but these do not seem to be
>     > for-pay private schools for those who can afford it.  Understandably they
>     > are
>     > different from the usual municipal school district, but if still paid for by
>     > taxes and free of tuition and (_presumably_) open to all; that's public
>     > enough
>     > to not be called private.  We could split hairs and call it 'alternative'
>     > and
>     > debate who owns the land, but the words "public" and "school" when together
>     > not
>     > sacrosanct.
>     >
>     > Anyone can follow Christian's references and read-up on the back story.
>     > There
>     > is no subterfuge intended here.
>     >
>     > FWIW I do hope to join this particular activity on some future occasion.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 07/27/2012 01:29 PM, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com
>     >> <mailto:rick at linuxmafia.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Quoting Jeff Bragg (jackofnotrades at gmail.com
>     >> <mailto:jackofnotrades at gmail.com>):
>     >>
>     >>     > I believe you are missing Rick's point, which is not about whether
>     >> or not
>     >>     > public or private schools are a good thing, but rather about whether
>     >> or not
>     >>     > the school Christian refers to is in fact a public school.  Rick's
>     >> point,
>     >>     > if I understand correctly, is that the school in question is not
>     >> actually a
>     >>     > public school.
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>     Regardless of one's view, Christian's repeated misrepresentation of
>     >> fact
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Rick and I have a difference of opinion.  Neither Rick nor I have
>     >> misrepresented
>     >> a fact.  All the facts that I stated are true.  Any child in California
>     >> can
>     >> attend any KIPP school for free.  If KIPP is not public, who is paying for
>     >> that
>     >> child's tuition?  Answer:  taxes, just like all other public schools.
>     >> Rick is
>     >> not disputing tha
> 
> 
> 
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