[sf-lug] Debian 10 out on ...

[Michael Paoli]

> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Debian 10 out on ...
> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2019 13:40:50 -0700

>> From: "Rick Moen" <rick at linuxmafia.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Debian 10 out on ...
>> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 10:02:24 -0700
>
>> Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu):
>>
>>> Already been seeding 'em to bittorrent:
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> | Filename                                          Size   Download
>>> Upload |
>>> | debian-10.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso          613.0  M   0    B/s
>>> 0    B/s |
>>> | ^---  download succeeded!                                0.0  M
>>> 0.0  M   |
>>> | debian-10.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso             641.0  M   0    B/s
>>> 13    B/s |
>>> | ^---  download succeeded!                                0.0  M
>>> 56.1  M   |
>>> | debian-10.0.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso              641.0  M   0    B/s
>>> 0    B/s |
>>> | ^---  download succeeded!                                0.0  M
>>> 4.1  M   |
>>
>> Again, I have to ask:  Why not favour the unofficial images that  
>> differ only in adding back the omitted non-free firmware BLOBs?
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/
>
> If you don't need 'em, you don't need 'em.  :-)
> For the installs, I prefer to not install non-free without at least
> knowingly taking explicit action to do so.  And with the install
> images, easy enough - just put the non-free firmware on, e.g. another USB
> flash stick, per documentation, and the installer will then recognize it
> and use it (it'll ask for it if you have hardware the installer deems
> needs firmware that's not available from main, but requires non-free).
>
> But yes,for the live, I'd favor with the non-free firmware, as not so
> convenient/easy to add non-free firmware if, e.g. one is taking
> the distro for a spin and running it off live DVD.  Though I'd generally
> recommend installing from the install images, not from the live
> images, though some will choose to install from live images anyway.
> But if one really really wants the install to be "just like" (as
> close as possible to what it looks like) it is on live, well, ... one
> can install from live.  But one can hope folks actually think and make
> some choices, and don't just take all the defaults (but alas, I may
> be dreaming).

Not quite updated on:
https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:cds_and_images_etc
yet, but I now also have:
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-cinnamon+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-kde+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-lxde+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-lxqt+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-mate+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-standard+nonfree.iso
debian-live-10.0.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso