[sf-lug] computer work at a public school this Saturday
audvare at gmail.com
Fri Jul 27 14:35:58 PDT 2012
I am somewhat in support of calling these public schools being that they
use public funding (and no, it would be better if it went to a 'real'
public school; government ALWAYS waste money; NEVER let the government
touch any money ever for any reason). I blame unions for most government
Charter school are usually open by first come first serve. Does that make
them public? And a number of spots are often raffled because teacher's
unions HATE charter schools because charter schools do a better job and the
teacher's unions cannot let this information out. They call this being
'fair' (as if a lottery can be fair). In case you do not already know:
You can also watch 'Waiting for Superman' on YouTube.
Just my 2 cents.
On Friday, 27 July 2012, Sean wrote:
> Good one. I agree with both of you, actually, but these do not seem to be
> for-pay private schools for those who can afford it. Understandably they
> different from the usual municipal school district, but if still paid for
> taxes and free of tuition and (_presumably_) open to all; that's public
> to not be called private. We could split hairs and call it 'alternative'
> debate who owns the land, but the words "public" and "school" when
> together not
> Anyone can follow Christian's references and read-up on the back story.
> is no subterfuge intended here.
> FWIW I do hope to join this particular activity on some future occasion.
> On 07/27/2012 01:29 PM, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
> > Hi,
> > > I believe you are missing Rick's point, which is not about whether
> or not
> > > public or private schools are a good thing, but rather about
> whether or not
> > > the school Christian refers to is in fact a public school. Rick's
> > > if I understand correctly, is that the school in question is not
> actually a
> > > public school.
> > Regardless of one's view, Christian's repeated misrepresentation of
> > Rick and I have a difference of opinion. Neither Rick nor I have
> > a fact. All the facts that I stated are true. Any child in California
> > attend any KIPP school for free. If KIPP is not public, who is paying
> for that
> > child's tuition? Answer: taxes, just like all other public schools.
> Rick is
> > not disputing that any child can attend KIPP for free.
> > Rick, are you saying that KIPP is a private school? If KIPP and
> Creative Arts
> > Charter School (CACS) are private schools, how can they stay in business
> if they
> > don't charge tuition?
> > That is why I say there is a mere difference of opinion here. An
> opinion is a
> > conclusion drawn from facts. The fact is that KIPP is funded by taxes;
> the fact
> > is that the kids attend for free; but the KIPP administrators and cannot
> > fired by the SFUSD. Instead, SFUSD must prove that there are grounds to
> > the KIPP charter. Grounds normally include poor performance. Based on
> > facts, Rick _opines_ that KIPP is private. I am _opining_ that KIPP is
> > There are no misrepresentation of facts here; but a difference of how we
> > interpreting agreed upon facts.
> > In either case, we will be installing Linux computers there this
> Saturday, at
> > O'Farrell and Pierce, from 1 pm to 4 pm. Call me at 415-351-1300 so
> that I can
> > let you into the school when you arrive.
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