[sf-lug] computer work at a public school this Saturday

Sean sean.channel at pacbell.net
Fri Jul 27 13:55:17 PDT 2012

Good one. I agree with both of you, actually, but these do not seem to be
for-pay private schools for those who can afford it.  Understandably they are
different from the usual municipal school district, but if still paid for by
taxes and free of tuition and (_presumably_) open to all; that's public enough
to not be called private.  We could split hairs and call it 'alternative' and
debate who owns the land, but the words "public" and "school" when together not

Anyone can follow Christian's references and read-up on the back story.  There
is no subterfuge intended here.

FWIW I do hope to join this particular activity on some future occasion.

On 07/27/2012 01:29 PM, Christian Einfeldt wrote:
> Hi,
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com
> <mailto:rick at linuxmafia.com>> wrote:
>     Quoting Jeff Bragg (jackofnotrades at gmail.com <mailto:jackofnotrades at gmail.com>):
>     > I believe you are missing Rick's point, which is not about whether or not
>     > public or private schools are a good thing, but rather about whether or not
>     > the school Christian refers to is in fact a public school.  Rick's point,
>     > if I understand correctly, is that the school in question is not actually a
>     > public school.
>     Regardless of one's view, Christian's repeated misrepresentation of fact
> Rick and I have a difference of opinion.  Neither Rick nor I have misrepresented
> a fact.  All the facts that I stated are true.  Any child in California can
> attend any KIPP school for free.  If KIPP is not public, who is paying for that
> child's tuition?  Answer:  taxes, just like all other public schools.  Rick is
> not disputing that any child can attend KIPP for free. 
> Rick, are you saying that KIPP is a private school?  If KIPP and Creative Arts
> Charter School (CACS) are private schools, how can they stay in business if they
> don't charge tuition? 
> That is why I say there is a mere difference of opinion here.  An opinion is a
> conclusion drawn from facts.  The fact is that KIPP is funded by taxes; the fact
> is that the kids attend for free; but the KIPP administrators and cannot be
> fired by the SFUSD.  Instead, SFUSD must prove that there are grounds to revoke
> the KIPP charter.  Grounds normally include poor performance.  Based on these
> facts, Rick _opines_ that KIPP is private.  I am _opining_ that KIPP is public. 
> There are no misrepresentation of facts here; but a difference of how we are
> interpreting agreed upon facts.
> In either case, we will be installing Linux computers there this Saturday, at
> O'Farrell and Pierce, from 1 pm to 4 pm.  Call me at 415-351-1300 so that I can
> let you into the school when you arrive. 
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