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paulz at ieee.org paulz at ieee.org
Wed Dec 8 16:29:19 PST 2021


 Ah but which "English".  Probably the Queen's English, definitely not the Americanized usage of recent years.

For those who follow the traditions of the Church of England, candidates for Holy Baptism are presented using only their Christian names.
And then there are other traditions where a name has many parts that recognize a number of relatives.  
    On Wednesday, December 8, 2021, 04:11:31 PM PST, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:  
 
 Quoting Paul Zander (paulz at ieee.org):

> When reading an earlier email in this thread, it took me a moment to
> remember the definition of "given name".   When asked to give my
> name, the entries are always for "first name" and "last name", never
> "given name".  Maybe its different in the UK, where ancestry is more
> important.

There's a secondary, somewhat annotated (with examples) copy of Patrick
McKenzie’s famous short essay Falsehoods Programmers Believe About
Names, hosted by tony rogers (and, just this once, I'll not be
impertinent and correct that to "Tony Rogers") at
https://shinesolutions.com/2018/01/08/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names-with-examples/ .  
His _very first_ comment after the main text, in the Let’s Wrap This Up 
second, says:

  o  Do not use terms like “first name” or “Christian name” – “given name”
    is the most commonly accepted term in English.

So claims Mr. rogers, anyway.  What do *I* know?  I'm just an
irretrievably heterodox, somewhat polyglot Norwegian-American.  But I
would have guessed that Mr. Rogers (there! impertinence returns) is
correct about that.

Also, "given name" will be less vexing to any of the quarter-milling
"Zhang Weis" of this word, not to mention the Liszt Ferencs -- whose
given names aren't _first_, are then?  Nei?


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