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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Ah but which "English". Probably the Queen's English, definitely not the Americanized usage of recent years.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">For those who follow the traditions of the Church of England, candidates for Holy Baptism are presented using only their Christian names.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">And then there are other traditions where a name has many parts that recognize a number of relatives. </div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, December 8, 2021, 04:11:31 PM PST, Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
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<div>Quoting Paul Zander (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>):<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> When reading an earlier email in this thread, it took me a moment to<br clear="none">> remember the definition of "given name". When asked to give my<br clear="none">> name, the entries are always for "first name" and "last name", never<br clear="none">> "given name". Maybe its different in the UK, where ancestry is more<br clear="none">> important.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There's a secondary, somewhat annotated (with examples) copy of Patrick<br clear="none">McKenzie’s famous short essay Falsehoods Programmers Believe About<br clear="none">Names, hosted by tony rogers (and, just this once, I'll not be<br clear="none">impertinent and correct that to "Tony Rogers") at<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://shinesolutions.com/2018/01/08/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names-with-examples/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://shinesolutions.com/2018/01/08/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names-with-examples/ </a>. <br clear="none">His _very first_ comment after the main text, in the Let’s Wrap This Up <br clear="none">second, says:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"> o Do not use terms like “first name” or “Christian name” – “given name”<br clear="none"> is the most commonly accepted term in English.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">So claims Mr. rogers, anyway. What do *I* know? I'm just an<br clear="none">irretrievably heterodox, somewhat polyglot Norwegian-American. But I<br clear="none">would have guessed that Mr. Rogers (there! impertinence returns) is<br clear="none">correct about that.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Also, "given name" will be less vexing to any of the quarter-milling<br clear="none">"Zhang Weis" of this word, not to mention the Liszt Ferencs -- whose<br clear="none">given names aren't _first_, are then? Nei?<div class="ydpd6afa1b2yqt1123621909" id="ydpd6afa1b2yqtfd92210"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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