[conspire] Let's look at fluview

[Ruben]

With regard to the fast food, there might be something to be said about us being over sanitary... Maybe.

On April 28, 2020 7:08:57 PM EDT, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
>
>> He builds up to a routine that says the panet will get rid of us with
>a
>> virus.
>
>OK, thanks.  I'll probably watch it, then.  I hope you're familiar with
>Terry Gilliam's shaggy-dog (er, shaggy-monkey) 1995 science fiction
>movie
>'12 Monkeys'?
>
>   [...]
>   The movie uses its future world as a home base and launching pad for
>  the central story, which is set in 1990 and 1996, and is about a time
>   traveler trying to save the world from a deadly plague.
>
>   The traveler is Cole (Bruce Willis), who in the opening shots lives
>  with a handful of other human survivors in an underground shelter put
>together out of scrap parts and a lot of wire mesh.  The surface of the
>   planet has been reclaimed by animals, after the death of 5 billion
>   people during a plague in 1996.
>
>  Cole is plucked from his cage and sent on a surface expedition by the
> rulers of this domain, who hope to learn enough about the plague virus
>to defeat it.  Later, he is picked for a more crucial mission:  He will
>   travel back in time and gather information about the virus before it
> mutated.  (The movie holds out no hope that he can "stop" it before it
>starts; from his point of view, the plague has already happened, and so
>   the future society is seeking treatment, not prevention.)
>   [...]
>
>https://web.archive.org/web/20090215021903/http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19960105%2FREVIEWS%2F601050301%2F1023
>
>   Jeffrey Goines [Brad Pitt]:  You know what crazy is?  Crazy is 
>   majority rules.  Take germs, for example.
>
>   James Cole [Bruce Willis]:  Germs?
>
>   Jeffrey Goines:  Uh-huh.  Eighteenth century: no such thing, nada,
>nothing.  No one ever imagined such a thing.  No sane person.  Along
>comes
>this doctor, uh, Semmelweis, Semmelweis.  Semmelweis comes along.  He's
>  trying to convince people, other doctors mainly, that's there's these
>teeny tiny invisible bad things called germs that get into your body
>and
>make you sick.  He's trying to get doctors to wash their hands. What is
>this guy?  Crazy?  Teeny, tiny, invisible?  What do they call it? 
>Uh-uh,
>germs?  Huh?  What?  Now, up to the 20th century — last week, as a
>matter
>  of fact, before I got dragged into this hellhole — I go in to order a
>   burger at this fast-food joint, and the guy drops it on the floor.
>James, he picks it up, he wipes it off, he hands it to me like it's all
>OK.  "What about the germs?" I say.  He says "I don't believe in germs.
>Germs is a plot made up so they could sell disinfectants and soaps." 
>Now
>he's crazy, right?  See?  Ah!  Ah!  There's no right, there's no wrong,
>there's only popular opinion.  You... you... you believe in germs,
>right?
>
>Post-modern wisdom from two characters in a fictional insane asylum.
>(The bit about Dr. Ignatz Semmelweis is true.  He died, in the end, in
>an insane asylum, in disgrace.)
>
>Kurt Vonnegut considered Semmelweiss a once-in-a-lifetime hero.
>http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/Misc/Semmelweis.html
>
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