<html><head></head><body>With regard to the fast food, there might be something to be said about us being over sanitary... Maybe.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On April 28, 2020 7:08:57 PM EDT, Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben@mrbrklyn.com):<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">He builds up to a routine that says the panet will get rid of us with a<br>virus.<br></blockquote><br>OK, thanks. I'll probably watch it, then. I hope you're familiar with<br>Terry Gilliam's shaggy-dog (er, shaggy-monkey) 1995 science fiction movie<br>'12 Monkeys'?<br><br> [...]<br> The movie uses its future world as a home base and launching pad for<br> the central story, which is set in 1990 and 1996, and is about a time<br> traveler trying to save the world from a deadly plague.<br><br> The traveler is Cole (Bruce Willis), who in the opening shots lives<br> with a handful of other human survivors in an underground shelter put<br> together out of scrap parts and a lot of wire mesh. The surface of the<br> planet has been reclaimed by animals, after the death of 5 billion<br> people during a plague in 1996.<br><br> Cole is plucked from his cage and sent on a surface expedition by the<br> rulers of this domain, who hope to learn enough about the plague virus<br> to defeat it. Later, he is picked for a more crucial mission: He will<br> travel back in time and gather information about the virus before it<br> mutated. (The movie holds out no hope that he can "stop" it before it<br> starts; from his point of view, the plague has already happened, and so<br> the future society is seeking treatment, not prevention.)<br> [...]<br><br><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090215021903/http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19960105%2FREVIEWS%2F601050301%2F1023">https://web.archive.org/web/20090215021903/http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19960105%2FREVIEWS%2F601050301%2F1023</a><br><br> Jeffrey Goines [Brad Pitt]: You know what crazy is? Crazy is <br> majority rules. Take germs, for example.<br><br> James Cole [Bruce Willis]: Germs?<br><br> Jeffrey Goines: Uh-huh. Eighteenth century: no such thing, nada,<br> nothing. No one ever imagined such a thing. No sane person. Along comes<br> this doctor, uh, Semmelweis, Semmelweis. Semmelweis comes along. He's<br> trying to convince people, other doctors mainly, that's there's these<br> teeny tiny invisible bad things called germs that get into your body and<br> make you sick. He's trying to get doctors to wash their hands. What is<br> this guy? Crazy? Teeny, tiny, invisible? What do they call it? Uh-uh,<br> germs? Huh? What? Now, up to the 20th century — last week, as a matter<br> of fact, before I got dragged into this hellhole — I go in to order a<br> burger at this fast-food joint, and the guy drops it on the floor.<br> James, he picks it up, he wipes it off, he hands it to me like it's all<br> OK. "What about the germs?" I say. He says "I don't believe in germs.<br> Germs is a plot made up so they could sell disinfectants and soaps." Now<br> he's crazy, right? See? Ah! Ah! There's no right, there's no wrong,<br> there's only popular opinion. You... you... you believe in germs, right?<br><br>Post-modern wisdom from two characters in a fictional insane asylum.<br>(The bit about Dr. Ignatz Semmelweis is true. He died, in the end, in<br>an insane asylum, in disgrace.)<br><br>Kurt Vonnegut considered Semmelweiss a once-in-a-lifetime hero.<br><a href="http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/Misc/Semmelweis.html">http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/Misc/Semmelweis.html</a><hr>conspire mailing list<br>conspire@linuxmafia.com<br><a href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br></pre></blockquote></div><br>-- <br>Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.</body></html>