[sf-lug] REQUEST FOR HELP: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

jim jim at well.com
Wed Apr 29 10:24:34 PDT 2020



i have no recollection of sf-lug using a
mailman server other than yours.


On 4/28/20 8:52 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Jim Stockford (jim at well.com):
>
>> With respect to my reputation, here's my recollection of my involvement:
>> 2005 used Craig's List to advertise starting up sf-lug.
>> sat in Javacat cafe, often by myself, to host meetings.
>> used evolution email to maintain early group communication.
> And yet you yourself said "until we fix the mailman system for sf-lug".
> Is Jim Stockford 2020 now saying that Jim Stockford 2005 was hallucinating?
>
> Moreover, in 2005 SF-LUG's then-server suddenly had some sort of
> catastrophe, including (also) loss of the then-existing Web site.
> And so, I naturally asked, what happened?
>
> And you've _still_ not answered that pretty obvious and natural
> question.  Which, frankly, is a bit galling, given that you have
> so frequently cost me time and effort, but when I asked *you* a
> modest and obvious question about what happened that necessitated my
> stepping in and providing hosting, I got fifteen years of repeated,
> sullen silence.  And now, ignoring the question while talking around it.
>
>> sometime early Rick Moen offered mailman support for sf-lug.
>> I have no recollection of sf-lug using any other mailman server. <----
> Funny, you did in 2005.  I just got through quoting you to that effect.
>
>
>> restored sf-lug and conspire email records after loss due to
>> hardware failure.
> You mean 'mailed me some of the offlist messages that occured during my
> several months of downtime, but _not_ in the requested mbox format'?
>
> There were no loss of SF-LUG and Conspire e-mail records.  All the mail
> that was in the archives when my motherboard failed was still there when
> I brought the system back up on a different chassis.  What you did,
> after I generously offered, was send -- but in disregard of what I said
> was the needed mail format -- some offlist traffic among SF-LUG people
> during my server downtime, because I'd offered to merge those into the
> Mailman archive as if the server had been present to receive them.
>
>
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