[sf-lug] REQUEST FOR HELP: Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender

[Rick Moen]

Quoting Jim Stockford (jim at well.com):

> With respect to my reputation, here's my recollection of my involvement:

> 2005 used Craig's List to advertise starting up sf-lug.
> sat in Javacat cafe, often by myself, to host meetings.
> used evolution email to maintain early group communication.

And yet you yourself said "until we fix the mailman system for sf-lug".
Is Jim Stockford 2020 now saying that Jim Stockford 2005 was hallucinating?

Moreover, in 2005 SF-LUG's then-server suddenly had some sort of
catastrophe, including (also) loss of the then-existing Web site.
And so, I naturally asked, what happened?

And you've _still_ not answered that pretty obvious and natural
question.  Which, frankly, is a bit galling, given that you have 
so frequently cost me time and effort, but when I asked *you* a 
modest and obvious question about what happened that necessitated my
stepping in and providing hosting, I got fifteen years of repeated,
sullen silence.  And now, ignoring the question while talking around it.

> sometime early Rick Moen offered mailman support for sf-lug.
> I have no recollection of sf-lug using any other mailman server. <----

Funny, you did in 2005.  I just got through quoting you to that effect.


> restored sf-lug and conspire email records after loss due to
> hardware failure.

You mean 'mailed me some of the offlist messages that occured during my
several months of downtime, but _not_ in the requested mbox format'?

There were no loss of SF-LUG and Conspire e-mail records.  All the mail
that was in the archives when my motherboard failed was still there when
I brought the system back up on a different chassis.  What you did,
after I generously offered, was send -- but in disregard of what I said
was the needed mail format -- some offlist traffic among SF-LUG people
during my server downtime, because I'd offered to merge those into the
Mailman archive as if the server had been present to receive them.