[sf-lug] Domain administration (broken WHOIS)

Al awsflug at sunnyside.com
Sat Apr 6 15:43:43 PDT 2019


sflug.org - Rick mentioned that it was available so I grabbed it. I've 
learned not to wait on those things - it often doesn't end well.
Now I'll just sit back and listen to the conversation and wait and see 
if anyone actually wants to use it.  I don't need to own it.  I can
also "point" it somewhere.  Doesn't seem yet that there's a definite 
movement to do anything with it anyway.
For what it's worth I share Rick's opinions on Meetups.  If someone must 
have RSVP, then there are open source alternatives that aren't invasive 
and controlling the way Meetup is.

Al

On 4/6/2019 15:26, Michael Paoli wrote:
> Thanks. Yeah, per relevant technical standards/policies & such,
> that certainly would be at least (semi-)broken.
>
> I'll poke around the Joker interface sometime soon-ish (at
> least hopefully), and see if I can "fix" that.
> And, yep, may be fallout from GDPR.
>
> I should recheck the whois & config stuff I have access to for
> the domains I have & support (a couple of my own domains, plus
> multiple[L]UG domains).  "Worst case" I ought catch/fix that
> around renewal times ... but hopefully I get to it well before
> then.  :-)  (hmmm... 3 different registrars I currently deal with).
>
> Egad, ... and it's a bloody web form thingy.  I think that's
> even more annoying than those "privacy" email thingies.
> And ... dear knows if they work - form probably just takes the
> data and maybe tells you it took it okay.  After that ... dear
> knows.
>
>> From: "Rick Moen" <rick at linuxmafia.com>
>> Subject: Domain administration (broken WHOIS)
>> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 01:38:00 -0700
>
>> and so I set out to remind myself who owns & administers the existing
>> domains, by looking at the public WHOIS contacts?  You're way ahead of
>> me, right?  You can probably guess what I'm about to say next.
>>
>>
>> $ whois -h whois.joker.com sf-lug.com
>> Domain Name: sf-lug.com
>> Registry Domain ID: 123972386_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
>> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com
>> Registrar URL: https://joker.com
>> Updated Date: 2018-05-04T14:25:58Z
>> Creation Date: 2004-07-02T21:17:46Z
>> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-07-02T21:17:46Z
>> Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com
>> Registrar IANA ID: 113
>> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at joker.com
>> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447
>> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
>> https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
>> Registrant Organization: San Francisco Linux User Group
>> Registrant Country: US
>> Registrant Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/sf-lug.com/owner
>> Admin Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/sf-lug.com/admin
>> Tech Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/sf-lug.com/tech
>> Name Server: ns.primate.net
>> Name Server: ns1.linuxmafia.com
>> Name Server: ns1.sf-lug.com
>> DNSSEC: signedDelegation
>> URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form:
>> https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2019-04-06T08:28:25Z <<<
>> $
>>
>>
>> $ whois -h whois.joker.com sf-lug.org
>> Domain Name: sf-lug.org
>> Registry Domain ID: D104593649-LROR
>> Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com
>> Registrar URL: https://joker.com
>> Updated Date: 2018-05-04T05:30:34Z
>> Creation Date: 2004-07-02T21:17:47Z
>> Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-07-02T21:17:47Z
>> Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com
>> Registrar IANA ID: 113
>> Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse at joker.com
>> Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447
>> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
>> https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
>> Registrant Organization: San Francisco Linux User Group
>> Registrant State/Province: CA
>> Registrant Country: US
>> Registrant Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/sf-lug.org/owner
>> Admin Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/sf-lug.org/admin
>> Tech Email: https://csl-registrar.com/contact/sf-lug.org/tech
>> Name Server: ns.primate.net
>> Name Server: ns1.svlug.org
>> Name Server: ns1.sf-lug.org
>> Name Server: ns1.linuxmafia.com
>> DNSSEC: signedDelegation
>> URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form:
>> https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2019-04-06T08:27:21Z <<<
>> $
>>
>>
>> Who's Registrant, and how does one get in contact with him/her?
>> Who's Tech Contact, and how does one get in contact with him/her?
>> Who's Admin Contact, and how does one get in contact with him/her?
>>
>> Same answer to all three questions:  It's a secret.  Nobody's permitted
>> to know.
>>
>>
>> Given that Joker.com aka CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH is in
>> Düsseldorf, Germany, this may very well be a GDPR-driven blunder imposed
>> on the domain owner.  Irrespective of that, IMO it's important for
>> whoever administers these domains to un-hide the WHOIS contacts, so that
>> the WHOIS record becomes once again usable for its intended purpose.
>> ASAP.
>>
>> Or follow the path of least resistance, do nothing about broken WHOIS,
>> and be prepared to hear 'I told you so' when badness happens because the
>> domain's principals cannot be identified and contacted.
>
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