[sf-lug] Fwd: "Future Lubuntu Releases Won't Focus on Old PCs"

[Bobbie Sellers]

On 07/29/2018 08:40 PM, aaronco36 at sdf.org wrote:
> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com>
> forwarded the below message at [01]:

     Yes then I looked and Lubuntu still has an 32 bit version as do 
most of the 'buntu
spins.  Besides that there are plenty of distributions which have not 
abandoned
the older 32 bit machines, 16/32 bit as in the Motorola 680x0 are gone 
and maybe
ARM 32 bit is still as well supported as it ever has been but ARM 64 is 
the coming
standard and that is good.  My Android tablet with 32 bit processors 
never had
enough speed to handle more than still images.  Great disappointment...

>
> ~~~~~~~~~~ quoting ~~~~~~~~~~~
> Lubuntu will remain the operating system to bring
> back to life old computers, but computers from 10
> years ago which use a dual-core 64-bit processor
> with at least 2GB of RAM, not 32-bit machines from
> 20 years ago that no longer exist.
> Article: -- reference [02] --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     I would query the idea that 32 bit machines no longer exist. These 
may no longer
be built or maintained by the original manufacturer but if you look 
around and want
something you might well find it to add to a museum of devices or run 
something
obscure under CPM or even DOS but using emulation is easier and quite fast
on modern machines.
>
> IIRC, I brought up the same notion of Lubuntu
> discarding "older" 32-bit machines with less
> than 2GB of RAM in my post of less than 3 mos
> ago entitled 'SF-LUG meeting notes + abt some
> lightweight distros' [03], as per the
> conversation with Lubuntu developer Simon
> Quigley:
> ~~~~~~~~~~ quoting ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Simon Quigley	- April 28, 2018 at 1:48 am
>> Minimum memory requirements jumped up twice in compare of 16.04. Why?
> Computers have evolved.
>
>> Can we install snaps in Lubuntu via GUI now?
> Probably using the Ubuntu Software Center.
> ~
> ~
> BornRetarded	- April 29, 2018 at 2:33 pm
>>> Imagine if your car used twice the gasoline because cars have evolved.
> ~
> ~
> Simon Quigley	- April 29, 2018 at 6:05 pm
>>>> It's not the same thing.
>>>> Please stop complaining about a number that we just bumped in the
> release announcement.
>>>> The goal is to make sure people know that things like Firefox will need
> a couple of GB of RAM.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Note from [04] that the above conversation has
> been effectively *scrubbed* out of Quigley's
> Lubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) release
> announcement.
>
>
> ====
>
> Right, so what to do going forward with those
> 32-bit PCs still around that have less than
> 2GB RAM?
>
> Well, going right back to my previous post
> of [03], one could still use:
> - BunsenLabs Helium with Openbox WM [05]
> - Bodhi Linux 4.5.x [06] with its Moksha
> desktop and using extra optimizations
> such as those within the Easy Linux tips
> project[07].
> (Actually referred to the EL tips project
> in item 3 within a previous post at [08])
> - AntiX Linux 17.1 "Heather Heyer" with its
> lightweight WMs [09]
> - Void Live 20171007 with its lightweight
> desktops [10]
> - Devuan ASCII with its lightweight
> desktop(s) [11]
>
> Within my previous post of [12], I
> mentioned Puppy Linux [13]
>
> There is still Debian (GNU/) Linux for
> i686 using its lightest weight desktop(s)
> along with further optimizations [14]
>
> There are several other as yet unmentioned
> and definitely less popular lightweight
> Debian/Ubuntu variants such as LXLE
> 16.04.x [15] and WattOS R10 [16] with each
> of their respective lightweight desktops.
>
> ====
>
> Comments, additional suggestions, advice,
> ... etcetera most certainly welcome from
> Bobbie S, Michael P, Rick M, Daniel G, and
> others reading this :-)
>
> -A
>
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> References
> ===================================
>
> [01]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q3/013308.html
>
> [02]https://news.softpedia.com/news/future-lubuntu-releases-won-t-focus-on-old-pcs-will-offer-a-modular-linux-os-522141.shtml
>
> [03]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q2/013231.html
>
> [04]https://lubuntu.me/bionic-released/#more-3008
>
> [05]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=bunsenlabs
>
> [06]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=bodhi
>
> [07]https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/
>
> [08]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q2/013284.html
>
> [09]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=antix
>
> [10]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=void
>
> [11]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan
>
> [12]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2018q2/013234.html
>
> [13]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=puppy
>
> [14]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=debian
>
> [15]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle
>
> [16]https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=wattos
>
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>
         Bobbie Sellers