[sf-lug] UEFI motherboard available SUSE UEFI plans

Andrew Udvare audvare at gmail.com
Sat Aug 11 18:24:26 PDT 2012

Well, at least the option is there and it is disable-able, for *this*

But the fact remains that manufacturers (including those that sell
motherboards retail to those amongst us who build our systems ourselves)
are under *no* obligation to add this option.

For those like me who build their system nearly entirely (Gentoo user
here), and build their own machines, this is a pretty big concern. And I do
like to use Gentoo on laptops too. And again there the problem remains
(which is why I plan to buy Apple laptops as long as they don't do anything
similar; they already had EFI, years ahead and ELILO works there). So while
Apple laptops may not be the best for performance (especially when compared
by price), I might have to stick with that if UEFI without the ability to
disable becomes prevalent.

Support Apple here. At least they do not do this crap on their laptops and
machines (note I didn't mention iOS devices).

I would not mind having a secure boot mechanism for security reasons. I
don't think UEFI Secure Boot is the answer to the problem. Windows is the
only system that is so stupidly coded it needs crap like that. Plus, who
turns on and off their systems so much? ONLY Windows (and lately, Ubuntu).
Even a Mac stays on for months at a time since updates are less frequent,
due to the security actually being good and most updates not requiring a

So far we have three betraying distros (who decided to sign the deal with
the devil AKA Microsoft), and anyone using these should stop using them
immediately and let them know:
SUSE/Novell (why am I not surprised?)

We should be extremely concerned. There is no option in place like 'buy
your own certificate' and even if there was, it is ludicrous to pay to run
different software on hardware you own.



On Saturday, 11 August 2012, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

>     Stories give details.
> <http://www.h-online.com/open/**news/item/Aldi-PC-becomes-**
> first-retail-PC-with-UEFI-**Secure-Boot-1635893.html<http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Aldi-PC-becomes-first-retail-PC-with-UEFI-Secure-Boot-1635893.html>
> >
>     SUSE story:
> <http://www.h-online.com/open/**news/item/SUSE-details-its-**
> Secure-Boot-plans-1664699.html<http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/SUSE-details-its-Secure-Boot-plans-1664699.html>
> **>
>     A bit shorter and more comprehensible (to me).
> <http://www.h-online.com/open/**news/item/SUSE-details-its-**
> Secure-Boot-plans-1664699.html<http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/SUSE-details-its-Secure-Boot-plans-1664699.html>
> **>
>     Comment on the plans of SUSE from a Fedora devloper
> <http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/**15818.html<http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/15818.html>
> >
>     It is the end of my day for useful reading so I am not
> sure I understand much of what is being said.
>     Bobbie Sellers
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