[sf-lug] Fedora dealing with UEFI

[Rick Moen]

Quoting Grant Bowman (grantbow at ubuntu.com):

> This is a rare case of Rick not being precise enough. It was not a personal
> attack. I addressed behavior and perception. 

Saying I'm 'apparently mean spirited' and drive people away from
participation on public mailing lists is both extremely personal and
aims to hit me _squarely_ in the core of my Internet participation for
the last 30 years, as I've done damned near nothing but build online
communities, funding the effort entirely out of my pocket (including
providing public forums for many groups including this one) without 
any expectation of thanks, because I think it's important work.

Denying that it's personal is classic passive-aggressive behaviour.

And now I see that you're dropping the 'apparently', and also attempting 
to hide behind unnamed other people whose views you claim to represent.
So, it wasn't bad enough before, and now you're escalating.

And you're still doing all this from an Ubuntu mailing address.  Wow.

You know, if I _were_ the 'mean sprited' person you claim I am, I could
certainly get you in a huge amount of trouble with Canonical, Ltd. for
making them look extremely bad in public, especially given the kicking
of dirt against the Fedora Project that I spoke up to correct -- with
which you had no problem, but were delighted to personally attack the
person who posted the correction.

However, I most certainly won't, as I'm not that sort of guy, and I have
no time for your kind of soap opera.