[sf-lug] SF-LUG & BALUG: System OS upgrades *soon*(?) - volunteer(s)?

Brian Morris cymraegish at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 19:56:40 PST 2012

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Quoting Brian Morris (cymraegish at gmail.com):
> > IIRC some major installations choose to use the proper names.
> You seem to be ignoring upthread context, which is Debian.

I meant Debian, such as OSU Open Source Lab, a repository of many Distros
(Linux and BSD), running Debian oldstable.

> > Even with Debian tho there are always technical adjustments (new
> features,
> > even dropped packages).
> The universe has death and taxes in it, too.  ;->
> Yes, when Web servers running package apache (1.3.x) followed the stable
> track from 4.0/etch to 5.0/lenny, there were no more updates available
> to the apache (1.3.x) packages.  OH NOEZ!
> Administrators who'd been hiding under rocks for about five years might
> have missed the need to bear down and create a corresponding conffile
> setup for the apache2 packages.  They might find that... EEK!  Their
> Apache 1.3 setups continued to run normally.  Um, I'm sorry, I'm sure
> there was an emergency of epic proportions in there somewhere.  I wonder
> where I mislaid it?

This sounds rather derogatory to me. Why spend time and money on labour if
before you  have need to ?

Is there some "epic emergency" which requires upgrades before they are
needed or necessary ?

> > There is a desire for planned rather than forced upgrades.
> Oh, you mean a 'planned upgrade' like the one that is the principal
> responsibility of each Debian Release Manager and that they've had a
> superb record of bringing off repeatedly with zero downtime, as opposed
> to a 'forced upgrade' like the necessarily messy and fragile one, _with_
> downtime, that SF-LUG and BALUG's machine is now going to have to do?
> Those sorts of upgrades?
> > Also one may /should  be able to upgrade less often.
> Yeah, have fun with oldstable.  Mail us an illuminated manuscript when
> you have a moment.
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