[sf-lug] Web Log Analyzers

Ernest De Leon edeleonjr at gmail.com
Thu Dec 6 16:13:06 PST 2007


Wow, I'm sorry to hear that they won't take Google analytics.  It provides
exactly what you are looking for:  visits and absolute unique visitors.
Urchin is a paid for software from Google (which may not help you out), and
it is essentially analytics on steriods plus support.  Other than that, I
don't know what to tell you.

Ernest

On Dec 6, 2007 3:13 PM, Steven Friese <stvn_consult at yahoo.com> wrote:

> First of all, let me apologize for the junk at the top of my email
> request, this is the first time that has ever happened and I don't know the
> cause.
>
> In the Webtrends report, there is a page called Visitors Overview.  Right
> under the top graph is a statistic that reads "XXX people visited this
> site".  They also have a number for Absolute Unique Visitors on the same
> page.
>
> From what I've read from some Open Source web analyzer docs, there is no
> real way to get these kinds of statistics since:
>
> 1.  an IP address does not necessarily represent a person
> 2.  dial-up lines can get different IP addresses for each call
> 3.  NAT based routers show all users at one IP address
> 4.  more than one person can use a computer
> 5.  etc.
>
> The problem is that, since a commercial software has these numbers (and
> advertisers seem to love them) we need a (preferably) Open Source product
> that can give those stats.  Failing that, we need commercial software that
> runs on Linux and provides those stats.
>
> I suggested Google-Analytics but for some reason it is forbidden to be
> used here.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ernest De Leon <edeleonjr at gmail.com>
> To: Steven Friese <stvn_consult at yahoo.com>
> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:48:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Web Log Analyzers
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for when you say "visits by
> people"...do you mean unique visitors?  I use google analytics for my web
> sites.  It works great for me.  I can see how many people hit my site, what
> pages they hit, where they came from ( i.e. search engine, referral),
> where they are located (geographically), what my bounce rate is, average
> time on website, average time on site, etc.  What more are you looking for?
>
>
> Ernest
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 12:09 PM, Steven Friese <stvn_consult at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I work for an online company where one of our sources of revenue is
> >  advertising.  We switched from using Windows to Linux and are now
> > trying
> >  to find a replacement for WebTrends.  We would prefer an Open Source
> >  solution and I have looked at Webalizer, AWStats,w3perl, AWFful and
> >  Google Analytics so far.  None of these has all the features that
> > WebTrends
> >  does.  Our marketing people definitely want something like Webtrends
> >  'Visits by People' statistic.  Anyone know of a Open Source or
> > Commercial
> >  analysis tool that works on Linux that will give an advertising
> > department the stats they need to make sales?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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