[sf-lug] Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty)?
jim stockford
jim at well.com
Sun Sep 9 14:25:43 PDT 2007
when i bring such topic up among uber-geeks
they remind me to think of inode numbers of files
i want to hoist about, just in case there are links
or other dependencies among the filesystem
citizens--a copy of a file has a different inode
number from its source, and moving the copied
file in place of the source file has the effect of
changing the inode number for that file, often
okay, but not always.
Sounds like you're a candidate for a bit-wise
write of partitions, yes? I'd like to know what tools
exist for impressing info on a hard drive bit-by-bit
(I know this is done for installs).
On Sep 9, 2007, at 2:08 PM, RBV wrote:
> Tom, et al:
>
>> Rsync is your friend.
>
> Thanks. Yes, my research frequently leads me to discussions about
> rsync.
>
> Okay -- so far, so good. A bit fidgety perhaps, but eventually I can
> presumably create some sort of "image" of a working system so I can
> clone
> it, albeit not in as straightforward a manner as permitted by Norton
> Ghost 2003.
>
> But, how does one restore an rsync-created "backup image" IF the target
> system that needs to receive this image is broken? For that matter,
> how
> does one restore the image even if the target system isn't broken?
> (That is
> to say, one surely can't copy a cloned system over a currently running
> one...?)
>
> I suspect that the answer may require the use of Ubuntu Live-CD. My
> immediate concern is therefore the presumptive need to perform some
> mount
> commands to make the target system and the backup image usable. And
> then...?
>
> (I'll mention parenthetically that I'm giving serious thought to (a)
> reverting to Dapper, or (b) trying to convert my current EXT3-based
> Feisty
> system to an EXT2 system to permit me to return to the "good old days"
> wherein I could easily use Norton Ghost to readily image and restore a
> backup system with no finicky command line experimentation required...)
>
> Cheers & sincere thanks again to everyone for their help,
> Riley
> SFO
>
>
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>> (Feisty?) (RBV)
>> 2. Re: Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (Tom Haddon)
>> 3. Re: Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (Rick Moen)
>> 4. Re: Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (Jeff Bragg)
>> 5. Fwd: UG News--Women in Tech Series from www.oreillynet.com
>> (jim stockford)
>> 6. BALUG 2007-09-18: John D. Mitchell, Krugle Chief Architect -
>> Find and reuse code; etc. (Michael Paoli)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:50:25 -0700
>> From: RBV <GoodWriter2548 at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [sf-lug] Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu
>> 7.04 (Feisty?)
>> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
>> Message-ID: <46E04BF1.7010002 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Three days ago I upgraded from Ubuntu 6 (Dapper) to Feisty. So far,
>> so
>> good, BUT Feisty's use of EXT3 disk broke my old backup strategy
>> based on
>> Norton Ghost 2003. More specifically, a restored Feisty root (not
>> boot)
>> partition isn't usable. Multiple threads on The Ubuntu Forum lead me
>> to
>> believe I'm not alone in experiencing this...
>>
>> I have at my disposal a Feisty CD-ROM (thanks Jim!), a 180GB USB2
>> drive
>> currently comprising NTSF and FAT32 partions, an internal CD-RW
>> burner, and
>> two 80GB tray-mounted drives which I can readily swap in and out of my
>> computer. One such drive currently contains a working W2K / Feisty
>> dual-boot system, the second drive contains a W2K / non-working
>> Feisty root
>> partition.
>>
>> With this in mind, can anyone suggest a sensible, straightforward,
>> *reliable* backup strategy for a complete Ubuntu Feisty system?
>>
>> Ideally the process would resemble as much as possible the creation
>> of a
>> backup "image" of a working Feisty system that could then be readily
>> restored as required.
>>
>> Finally, and at the risk of stating the obvious, I'd prefer not to
>> perform
>> dangerious experiments until I have a robust backup strategy in place
>> to
>> protect me from the consequences of unsuccessful experiments...
>>
>> Cheers & thanks,
>> Riley
>> SFO
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:38:18 -0700
>> From: Tom Haddon <tom at greenleaftech.net>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Does anyone have a good backup strategy for
>> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty?)
>> To: RBV <GoodWriter2548 at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
>> Message-ID: <1189193898.18263.5.camel at localhost.localdomain>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 11:50 -0700, RBV wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> Three days ago I upgraded from Ubuntu 6 (Dapper) to Feisty. So far,
>>> so
>>> good, BUT Feisty's use of EXT3 disk broke my old backup strategy
>>> based on
>>> Norton Ghost 2003. More specifically, a restored Feisty root (not
>>> boot)
>>> partition isn't usable. Multiple threads on The Ubuntu Forum lead
>>> me to
>>> believe I'm not alone in experiencing this...
>>>
>>> I have at my disposal a Feisty CD-ROM (thanks Jim!), a 180GB USB2
>>> drive
>>> currently comprising NTSF and FAT32 partions, an internal CD-RW
>>> burner, and
>>> two 80GB tray-mounted drives which I can readily swap in and out of
>>> my
>>> computer. One such drive currently contains a working W2K / Feisty
>>> dual-boot system, the second drive contains a W2K / non-working
>>> Feisty root
>>> partition.
>>>
>>> With this in mind, can anyone suggest a sensible, straightforward,
>>> *reliable* backup strategy for a complete Ubuntu Feisty system?
>>
>
>
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>> 1. Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (RBV)
>> 2. Re: Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (Tom Haddon)
>> 3. Re: Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (Rick Moen)
>> 4. Re: Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu 7.04
>> (Feisty?) (Jeff Bragg)
>> 5. Fwd: UG News--Women in Tech Series from www.oreillynet.com
>> (jim stockford)
>> 6. BALUG 2007-09-18: John D. Mitchell, Krugle Chief Architect -
>> Find and reuse code; etc. (Michael Paoli)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 11:50:25 -0700
>> From: RBV <GoodWriter2548 at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [sf-lug] Does anyone have a good backup strategy for Ubuntu
>> 7.04 (Feisty?)
>> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
>> Message-ID: <46E04BF1.7010002 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> Three days ago I upgraded from Ubuntu 6 (Dapper) to Feisty. So far,
>> so
>> good, BUT Feisty's use of EXT3 disk broke my old backup strategy
>> based on
>> Norton Ghost 2003. More specifically, a restored Feisty root (not
>> boot)
>> partition isn't usable. Multiple threads on The Ubuntu Forum lead me
>> to
>> believe I'm not alone in experiencing this...
>>
>> I have at my disposal a Feisty CD-ROM (thanks Jim!), a 180GB USB2
>> drive
>> currently comprising NTSF and FAT32 partions, an internal CD-RW
>> burner, and
>> two 80GB tray-mounted drives which I can readily swap in and out of my
>> computer. One such drive currently contains a working W2K / Feisty
>> dual-boot system, the second drive contains a W2K / non-working
>> Feisty root
>> partition.
>>
>> With this in mind, can anyone suggest a sensible, straightforward,
>> *reliable* backup strategy for a complete Ubuntu Feisty system?
>>
>> Ideally the process would resemble as much as possible the creation
>> of a
>> backup "image" of a working Feisty system that could then be readily
>> restored as required.
>>
>> Finally, and at the risk of stating the obvious, I'd prefer not to
>> perform
>> dangerious experiments until I have a robust backup strategy in place
>> to
>> protect me from the consequences of unsuccessful experiments...
>>
>> Cheers & thanks,
>> Riley
>> SFO
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:38:18 -0700
>> From: Tom Haddon <tom at greenleaftech.net>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Does anyone have a good backup strategy for
>> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty?)
>> To: RBV <GoodWriter2548 at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
>> Message-ID: <1189193898.18263.5.camel at localhost.localdomain>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 11:50 -0700, RBV wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> Three days ago I upgraded from Ubuntu 6 (Dapper) to Feisty. So far,
>>> so
>>> good, BUT Feisty's use of EXT3 disk broke my old backup strategy
>>> based on
>>> Norton Ghost 2003. More specifically, a restored Feisty root (not
>>> boot)
>>> partition isn't usable. Multiple threads on The Ubuntu Forum lead
>>> me to
>>> believe I'm not alone in experiencing this...
>>>
>>> I have at my disposal a Feisty CD-ROM (thanks Jim!), a 180GB USB2
>>> drive
>>> currently comprising NTSF and FAT32 partions, an internal CD-RW
>>> burner, and
>>> two 80GB tray-mounted drives which I can readily swap in and out of
>>> my
>>> computer. One such drive currently contains a working W2K / Feisty
>>> dual-boot system, the second drive contains a W2K / non-working
>>> Feisty root
>>> partition.
>>>
>>> With this in mind, can anyone suggest a sensible, straightforward,
>>> *reliable* backup strategy for a complete Ubuntu Feisty system?
>>
>> Rsync is your friend.
>>
>> I use it to backup my entire system with the exception of some things,
>> and have restored from it successfully when I did rm
>> -rf /root_directory_of_a_chroot when I had my /home directory mounted
>> in
>> the chroot (effectively deleting all home /home).
>>
>> Something like:
>>
>> rsync -avz --delete
>> --exclude-from=host_exclude / /path/of/external/drive
>>
>> Where the file "host_exclude" looks something like this:
>>
>> /boot/
>> /lib/modules
>> /etc/modules
>> /etc/lilo.conf
>> /etc/fstab
>> /etc/mtab
>> /proc
>> /dev
>> lost+found/
>> /var/log/
>> /sys
>> /media
>> /tmp
>>
>> (You don't have to exclude all of these - whatever is appropriate).
>>
>>
>> Note that this obviously isn't Ubuntu-specific (it works for me fine
>> on
>> Ubuntu and Debian, and I'm sure any other distro).
>>
>> Thanks, Tom
>>
>>> Ideally the process would resemble as much as possible the creation
>>> of a
>>> backup "image" of a working Feisty system that could then be readily
>>> restored as required.
>>>
>>> Finally, and at the risk of stating the obvious, I'd prefer not to
>>> perform
>>> dangerious experiments until I have a robust backup strategy in
>>> place to
>>> protect me from the consequences of unsuccessful experiments...
>>>
>>> Cheers & thanks,
>>> Riley
>>> SFO
>>>
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>
>>
>> I use it to backup my entire system with the exception of some things,
>> and have restored from it successfully when I did rm
>> -rf /root_directory_of_a_chroot when I had my /home directory mounted
>> in
>> the chroot (effectively deleting all home /home).
>>
>> Something like:
>>
>> rsync -avz --delete
>> --exclude-from=host_exclude / /path/of/external/drive
>>
>> Where the file "host_exclude" looks something like this:
>>
>> /boot/
>> /lib/modules
>> /etc/modules
>> /etc/lilo.conf
>> /etc/fstab
>> /etc/mtab
>> /proc
>> /dev
>> lost+found/
>> /var/log/
>> /sys
>> /media
>> /tmp
>>
>> (You don't have to exclude all of these - whatever is appropriate).
>>
>>
>> Note that this obviously isn't Ubuntu-specific (it works for me fine
>> on
>> Ubuntu and Debian, and I'm sure any other distro).
>>
>> Thanks, Tom
>>
>>> Ideally the process would resemble as much as possible the creation
>>> of a
>>> backup "image" of a working Feisty system that could then be readily
>>> restored as required.
>>>
>>> Finally, and at the risk of stating the obvious, I'd prefer not to
>>> perform
>>> dangerious experiments until I have a robust backup strategy in
>>> place to
>>> protect me from the consequences of unsuccessful experiments...
>>>
>>> Cheers & thanks,
>>> Riley
>>> SFO
>>>
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