[friday-follies] Anyone up for a Proposition Party?

[Jan P]

I can't come Nov 6, it's my granddaughter's birthday party.

Normally, we don't take sides on these things, but rather just try to
understand them.  However, this year, since others are sending their
recommendations ahead of time, I will too:

I am  BEGGING people to vote NO on 56 because it ALSO taxes quitting
smoking, and their idea of "equivalent" $$ is based on very flawed
advertizing from Chinese vendors (who claim 1 ecig is equivalent to a pack,
which it is NOT) which means that, day-per-day, smoking will be cheaper
than vaping.

I will bring materials when we meet, but wanted y'all to be aware.  Even if
a huge tax on 40% of the poor population and 15% of the rest of the
population was a good idea, I consider adding vaping in to be a fatal flaw
in the proposition.  Let them try again with vaping left out, and I'd still
vote against it if it's so high (because of poor people) but I wouldn't
actively campaign against it.  So far I have $200 and ab out 30 hours labor
in the NO on 56 effort from vapers (separate from the Big Tobacco anti
effort.)


On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre at deirdre.net>
wrote:

> Rick's already written up his guide: http://linuxmafia.com/~
> rick/election-2016-11-08.html
> <http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/election-2016-11-08.html#prop60>
>
> We're always happy to have lunch, though.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 23, 2016, at 10:13 PM, Michael Siladi <msiladi at ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> Folks:
>
> It's that time again. There are lots of propositions (17!) on the
> California ballot, plus a lot of local issue to be decided on November 8th.
>
> For those not familiar with the concept, a "Proposition Party" is a
> gathering where we discuss the merits and drawbacks of the various state
> and local ballot measures.  This is not about "how to vote", but instead it
> is focused on "what exactly are we voting on", and determining what "yes"
> and "no" votes mean with respect to each ballot measure.
>
> Typically, we gather on a Sunday before the election, bring our voter
> pamphlets, newspaper editorials and reviews, web page print-outs, campaign
> materials, opinion pieces, and any other background materials, and discuss
> each measure.  Hopefully, we do this calmly and thoughtfully.
>
> In the past, we've done this at the Sunnyvale Sweet Tomatoes (after Sunday
> Brunch clears out, we can have several hours of "quiet" time where we won't
> disturb anyone.  I also think that doing this after eating yields better
> dialog.
>
> I'd like to suggest either Sunday October 30 or Sunday November 6, about
> Noon-ish (or so).  Sweet Tomatoes in Sunnyvale can work for us (dress
> warmly as we'll probably be on the patio with space heaters.)  Other
> possibilities include Hobee's, Black Bear Diner, El Torito (Milpitas) or
> someone's home (with a potluck?) However, I'm open to suggestions for
> alternate locations, dates and times.
>
> Please remember that democracy is not a spectator sport.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
>
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