[conspire] (forw) Re: [kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is evil?

[Ivan Sergio Borgonovo]

May I add just as a starting point:

https://brave.com/web-standards-at-brave/6-privacy-sandbox-concerns/



On 6/16/22 20:30, Don Marti wrote:
> I posted this list of third-party trackers back in 2018....
> 
>    https://blog.zgp.org/quick-question-on-tracking-protection/
> 
> and just checked back with that page.  Now they have a TikTok tracking 
> script, too.
> 
> This is not just a privacy issue or health care discrimination issue -- 
> probably a national security issue, too.
> 
> https://cyberdefensereview.army.mil/CDR-Content/Articles/Article-View/Article/2537110/microtargeting-as-information-warfare/
> 
> (There are a couple of interesting W3C community groups that cover this 
> stuff -- free to join --  but the people who show up are mostly from 
> surveillance marketing companies.  Would be good to have more points of 
> view represented.
> https://www.adexchanger.com/ad-exchange-news/web-standards-orgs-call-out-for-help-as-they-and-online-ad-revenue-are-swamped-by-change/ )
> 
> There is no full self-protection from Facebook tracking, because 
> companies dump your info to them out of band -- but in California, 
> anyway, you can make them delete it if you're willing to put in the 
> time. (It can take a while... https://blog.zgp.org/rtk-workflow/ )
> 
> On 6/16/22 10:46, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Making the point, yet again, that all of you people who just don't worry
>> about privacy on the Web are idiots.  Facebook _really is_ the most nosy
>> corporation on the planet, and, yes, you do need the privacy that you
>> never get with just off-the-shelf Web browsing.  Time to wake up.
>>
>> Not-a-relative Doug Moen is also correct that the hospitals that
>> blithely run Meta Pixel Javascript snippets on hospital Web site pages
>> serving up HIPPA-covered, logged-in patient information are at least as
>> evil as Facebook is, in this case.  The problem of tracking spyware is
>> widespread.
>>
>> There ought to be major criminal prosecution, but almost certainly
>> won't.  Meantime, self-protect accordingly.
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 08:52:12 -0400
>> From: CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
>> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>> Subject: [kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is evil?
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>> Now they're collecting personal data from hospital Web sites:
>>
>> https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites
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>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 12:08:47 -0400
>> From: CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
>> To: KWLUG discussion <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is 
>> evil?
>>
>> Looks Ars Technica has picked up on this as well:
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites/
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>> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 10:23:38 -0400
>> From: Doug Moen <doug at moens.org>
>> To: KWLUG Discuss <kwlug-disc at kwlug.org>
>> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] have I ever told you guys that Facebook is 
>> evil?
>>
>> Yup, that is super evil.  And it's the hospital that's evil, not just
>> Facebook.  And it's the American gov't that is legalizing the evil.
>>
>> I went to the Grand River Hospital Web site and found a Google tracker,
>> but no Facebook tracker.  Ublock Origin protected me.  But this US
>> hospital isn't just installing an off-the-shelf tracker as part of the
>> usual Web dev "best practices" boilerplate code; their Web code is
>> explicitly sending detailed personal medical information from form
>> submissions to Facebook.  Fortunately, that practice is illegal in
>> Ontario, at least.
>>
>> Although I'm skeptical that Ontario medical privacy legislation provides
>> the level of protection you'd expect from a reading of the statutes.  The
>> vast majority of Ontarians with COVID vaccinations have had their vax
>> status made available on the Internet.  You have the right to refuse
>> this, but they don't tell you this when you get a vax shot.  If you make
>> an issue of it, then you sign a paper form, they give you a paper vax
>> receipt, and your medical information is not posted to the Internet.
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