[conspire] (forw) Re: (forw) Re: VirtualBox

Dana Goyette danagoyette at gmail.com
Fri Sep 23 15:02:21 PDT 2016


If you don't need Virtualbox's claimed 3D support (which is actually rather crappy), I'd suggest running Windows under KVM, via vert-manager.
KVM is integrated with the Linux kernel, and doesn't require binary drivers on the host.

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Paul Zander <paulz at ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> Running VB on windows is only a temporary activity.  
> 
> It was Rick's suggestion that, as an intermediate step, install VB on Windows and have it actually run the virtual version of windows.  
> 
> Then, having verified the Virtual windows works, I can safely reformat the HD to my liking, and install Debian using the entire drive.  After that, I will used Linux to run VB for those applications for which don't have a Linux counterpart.
> 
> BTW, one thing I noticed along the way was that when I am running windows inside VB, that installation won't need assorted programs like LibreOffice or gimp, which I might wish I could run while windows was open.  Another advantage of using virtualization instead of dual-boot.  
> 
> Now if the machine had come with Windows install media, this would have been a lot simplier, but we have already beaten that topic into dust.
> 
> 
> From: Dan Bikle <dan.bikle at gmail.com>
> To: Paul Zander <paulz at ieee.org> 
> Cc: "conspire at linuxmafia.com" <conspire at linuxmafia.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [conspire] (forw) Re: (forw) Re: VirtualBox
> 
> Paul,
> Answer to q1: My experience with virtualbox is that it is buggy and unreliable on windows. For USB features and support you will need to see how virtualbox behaves on your PC.  I have seen evidence that USB support exists for virtualbox guests but I dont know how reliable it is.
> 
> Answer to q2: I prefer .txt files.
> -Dan
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Paul Zander <paulz at ieee.org <mailto:paulz at ieee.org>> wrote:
> Many months later, I am moving forward on VirtualBox.
> 
> The next step is to actually install VirtualBox.
> 
> 2 quick questions:
> 1)  Regarding hardware.  I have at least one Windows program that uses a special USB thingy.  Can Windows in VirtualBox, readily find the USB thingy?   Will that lock up the entire USB? For example the mouse which is also on USB?
> 
> 2)  I have been making rather detailed step-by-step notes of the process.  It is several pages; Much too long to send as an email.  Is this something that should be posted on linuxmafia?  If so, what format is preferred?  PFD, ODT, TXT?
> 
> 
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com <mailto:rick at linuxmafia.com>>
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com <mailto:conspire at linuxmafia.com> 
> Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 1:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [conspire] (forw) Re: (forw) Re: VirtualBox
> 
> Quoting Paul Zander (Paul Zander):
> 
> > Regarding disk and partition units:The particular machine has a 1TB
> > drive.  Originally C: 900 GB.  There were some "hidden" partitions,
> > which seem to be standard windoz something.
> 
> If I were you, I would spend some effort figuring out what those are and
> what they're for.
> 
> > Win8 includes a partition manager, but it has limited functionality.
> 
> Yes, you'll ideally want to use a real, open source one, run from a live CD
> (which impliedly includes USB flash) distribution.
> 
> > Regarding flash vs. SSD:Both are solid state memories based on NAND
> > cells which have a limited number of write cycles before they
> > degrade.  SSD has a enhancements to increase the life by 10X or more. 
> > Now that think about it, only a few years ago people were questioning
> > if solid state memories were reliable enough to replace spinning
> > disks.  
> 
> Early on with NAND flash devices, there was a lot of worry about limited
> numbers of write/erase cycles and consequent early device death.  As you
> say, current production drives have so extended that number of cycles
> that nobody is really worried any more.  By the time your 2016 SSDs are
> wearing out, you're almost certain to want to replace them with better,
> faster, massively higher capacity, cheaper, tinier 2022 SSDs (or whatever).
> 
> People who remain worried are, of course, perfectly welcome to stick to
> (slow, power-sucking, heat-and-noise-generating) spinning-rust drives,
> that aren't exactly immune to device failure, either.
> 
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