[conspire] wtf ? sonic

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

In 2004, I beta-tested ADSL2+ service in general, and Bruce provided the
stress-testing materials. What Tony has been saying reflects my
conclusions, which I reported at CABAL at the time. Other statistics
from the beta tests showed that the full 25Mbps could be achieved only
at 1000 feet from the CO, with sync rates dropping drastically after
that. Sonic.net themselves warn that there will be practically no
download speed advantage at large distances, and if you sound like you
already know what you're doing, they'll assume your primary purpose for
choosing Fusion is the higher upload speed (twice what the same line
would get with regular ADSL) until you say otherwise. If you compare how
other providers have deployed ADSL2+, you'll see that there is
relatively little to complain about with Fusion. I am also anxious to
know the results of Rick's inquiry with Raw Bandwidth about their ADSL2+
offering.

On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 23:01 -0700, Tony Godshall wrote:
> Taking it back public...
> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Tony Godshall <tony at of.net> wrote:
>         
>         Like Rick, I don't take conversations private without a good
>         reason
>         
>         When I ordered mine they told me ujp front there's no way I'd
>         get the ideal 20 given the distance and in fact I started
>         getting 2mbps like you and over time as it has learned it has
>         crept up to 4mbps and stayed there pretty consistently.  And
>         it's plenty good enough for what I need.
>         
>         And stop saying they advertise that you'll get 20... they
>         advertise "up to" 20mps.  You can argue that using weasel
>         words is sleasy but dropping words that change meaning
>         dishonest.   
>         
>         Tony
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM, bruce coston
>         <jane_ikari at yahoo.com> wrote:
>                 No , I don't expect to occasionally see up to 1/10th
>                 of advertised unless we're talking cable modem
>                 isp.'s . Occasionally seeing 2mps. for something
>                 advertised as 20mps. when in another country you'd
>                 really get near 40mps. for that price says something =
>                 very wrong here . One does reasonably expect to see
>                 half of advertised unless on cable . Maybe my parents
>                 foolishly agreed to pay more for worse service vs.
>                 other sonic customers . We certainly saw a price
>                 increase just after service started approaching
>                 reliable and now it's kinda flaky again . 
>                  - Pity I don't have the political pull around here .
>                 - 
>                  - Bruce
>