[conspire] No more GNU HP Minis
ruben at mrbrklyn.com
Mon Feb 15 03:33:36 PST 2010
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 06:27:17AM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:28:21AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
> > > The position you made, and it is not without rationality, is that
> > > certain kinds of advocacy, like demanding GNU preloads from manufacturers,
> > > is ineffective because, aside from the technical reasons you cited, a
> > > waste of time and provocative.
> > Actually, you still didn't get it. Once again, what I said was:
> > o Your advocacy activity completely fails to advance your announced goal
> > (getting more Linux preloads on new computers), completely aside from
> > the separate question of whether the goal is a desirable one.
> > o Your notion of how to bring it about completely lacks a credible plan,
> > and seems to involve just making a lot of noise on LUG mailing lists.
> Actually, this has now become a waste of time. I've already addressed
> everything politely and dispassionately and I'm getting back a highly
> charged emotion response and nothing I'm saying is getting through.
> Conversations require two people.
> Lets see, LUG mailing lists, this month, so far, 217 technical
> conversations, and 3 social/political posts.
> So your wrong. And when I have made "noise" on LUG mailing lists in the
> past, it was backed with petitons, door to door knocking, trips to
> Washington, sitting in on hearings, hiring lawyers, and running a mapped
> out PR effort, written on paper and worked out with a committee of
> signing off on this topic...Next
Sorry - actually 219/9, the MYSQL-SUN-Oracle-Monty discussion I suppose was
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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