[conspire] No more GNU HP Minis

Ruben Safir ruben at mrbrklyn.com
Mon Feb 15 03:27:17 PST 2010

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:28:21AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
> > The position you made, and it is not without rationality, is that
> > certain kinds of advocacy, like demanding GNU preloads from manufacturers, 
> > is ineffective because, aside from the technical reasons you cited, a
> > waste of time and provocative.  
> Actually, you still didn't get it.  Once again, what I said was:
> o  Your advocacy activity completely fails to advance your announced goal
>    (getting more Linux preloads on new computers), completely aside from
>    the separate question of whether the goal is a desirable one.
> o  Your notion of how to bring it about completely lacks a credible plan,
>    and seems to involve just making a lot of noise on LUG mailing lists.

Actually, this has now become a waste of time.  I've already addressed
everything politely and dispassionately and I'm getting back a highly
charged emotion response and nothing I'm saying is getting through.
Conversations require two people.

Lets see, LUG mailing lists, this month, so far, 217 technical
conversations, and 3 social/political posts.

So your wrong.  And when I have made "noise" on LUG mailing lists in the
past, it was backed with petitons, door to door knocking, trips to
Washington, sitting in on hearings, hiring lawyers, and running a mapped
out PR effort, written on paper and worked out with a committee of

signing off on this topic...Next


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