[conspire] No more GNU HP Minis

Ruben Safir ruben at mrbrklyn.com
Mon Feb 15 03:18:32 PST 2010

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:28:21AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
> > The position you made, and it is not without rationality, is that
> > certain kinds of advocacy, like demanding GNU preloads from manufacturers, 
> > is ineffective because, aside from the technical reasons you cited, a
> > waste of time and provocative.  
> Actually, you still didn't get it.  Once again, what I said was:
> o  Your advocacy activity completely fails to advance your announced goal
>    (getting more Linux preloads on new computers), completely aside from
>    the separate question of whether the goal is a desirable one.
> o  Your notion of how to bring it about completely lacks a credible plan,
>    and seems to involve just making a lot of noise on LUG mailing lists.
> o  I make alternative uses of my time and energy that I'm pretty damned
>    sure demonstrably does a whole lot more good, making it extremely
>    peculiar for you to chide me for my effective work, and urge me 
>    to redirect time and energy to your ineffective work.
> > I was told specifically the same exact thing about poverty and crime in
> > NYC, and it took the Crown Heights riots to finally move the electorate
> > towards doing something about it.
> I very much doubt that you were told "the exact same thing" 

Yeah - that's not right. 

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