[conspire] conspire Digest, Vol 51, Issue 20
bruce coston
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Thu Aug 23 19:30:23 PDT 2007
may wanna check out pcbsd or fix sound on mepis, living in a remodeling project while ill sucks!
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7 (David Fox)
2. Re: sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7 (Darlene Wallach)
3. Re: sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7 (Heather Stern)
4. Re: sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7 (Rick Moen)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:03:39 -0700
From: "David Fox"
Subject: Re: [conspire] sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7
To: "Darlene Wallach"
Cc: conspire at linuxmafia.com
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> I figure my sound card is supported since I see evidence
> of it being recognized in the various output of cli
> commands and in the log files I've checked.
It should be, but I'm unfamiliar with Ensoniq (I use Soundblaster/Creative
Live these days). If the card is PCI it shouldn't be difficult to have
native support for
it already. If it is ISA, then all bets are off. I once attempted to get an
ISA based sound card to work for Bruce. I wasn't entirely successful, I
don't recall - maybe I was :).
I used to have an ISA card (Mozart chipset) years ago. At first, getting
support was only possible through proprietary sound drivers (which I gladly
paid for, only $20 yearly) since they worked well. Eventually it became
unnecessary (about the time I switched to Mandrake, from Red Hat).
My recommendation is similar, it seems, to Heather's. Rather than attempt to
get your sound card to work with YouTube straightaway, try to see if the
card itself is supported. Try playing a test wav or mp3 file with the
available tools, such as mplayer, or even more low-level, try 'play' from a
command line with a wav or mp3 file (play is a common-enough alias/symlink
for an incarnation of 'sox'. If your card is supported, you should be
getting some output when you do this. Even if you can't hear anything, there
is a sign that the card is working (otherwise you'd get cryptic kernel
messages, :"device not found", that sort of thing. If it looks like the file
is playing, the next thing to do is to check your mixer settings, cabling of
sound card output (are the cables going to the right device -- is that
output device working, that sort of thing).
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:37:27 -0700
From: Darlene Wallach
Subject: Re: [conspire] sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7
To: conspire
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David Fox wrote:
>> I figure my sound card is supported since I see evidence
>> of it being recognized in the various output of cli
>> commands and in the log files I've checked.
>
>
>
> It should be, but I'm unfamiliar with Ensoniq (I use Soundblaster/Creative
> Live these days). If the card is PCI it shouldn't be difficult to have
> native support for
> it already. If it is ISA, then all bets are off. I once attempted to get an
> ISA based sound card to work for Bruce. I wasn't entirely successful, I
> don't recall - maybe I was :).
>
> I used to have an ISA card (Mozart chipset) years ago. At first, getting
> support was only possible through proprietary sound drivers (which I gladly
> paid for, only $20 yearly) since they worked well. Eventually it became
> unnecessary (about the time I switched to Mandrake, from Red Hat).
>
> My recommendation is similar, it seems, to Heather's. Rather than attempt to
> get your sound card to work with YouTube straightaway, try to see if the
> card itself is supported. Try playing a test wav or mp3 file with the
> available tools, such as mplayer, or even more low-level, try 'play' from a
> command line with a wav or mp3 file (play is a common-enough alias/symlink
> for an incarnation of 'sox'. If your card is supported, you should be
> getting some output when you do this. Even if you can't hear anything, there
> is a sign that the card is working (otherwise you'd get cryptic kernel
> messages, :"device not found", that sort of thing. If it looks like the file
> is playing, the next thing to do is to check your mixer settings, cabling of
> sound card output (are the cables going to the right device -- is that
> output device working, that sort of thing).
>
What I tried to point out in my email is I don't
understand why my sound card was detected and I
heard sound during installation. I tried detecting
the sound card after installation and could hear
sound. Now I cannot hear sound when I use
system -> administration -> soundcard detection
I'm trying to figure out how to get that working
again. Then I'll worry about hearing mp3, wav,
seeing and hearing youtube.
Darlene
detect soundcard
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:26:30 -0700
From: star at starshine.org (Heather Stern)
Subject: Re: [conspire] sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7
To: Darlene Wallach
Cc: conspire
Message-ID: <20070823052630.GA2784 at starshine.org>
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> Now I cannot hear sound when I use
> system -> administration -> soundcard detection
I favor aumix, which is text based, as a mixer to mess with the values.
There is a natural tendency for me to avoid the GUI mode if some basic
function of the computer isn't working quite up to snuff, since sometimes
even just adding the GUI changes the dynamic.
> I'm trying to figure out how to get that working
> again. Then I'll worry about hearing mp3, wav,
> seeing and hearing youtube.
Anyways I'd play back and forth with aumix or any other suitable text mixer
until playing raw wav or .au sounds works with play. You can also cat a
file into your alleged sound device and listen to the horrible (but
changing) screech to know that the plain output works. Some sound files are
terribly quiet.
There should be a sample WAV of Linux Torvalds saying how he pronounces
Linux. It's not been accurate really for some time - he made it when things
were new - and I've heard him pronounce Linux 4 different ways in the same
paragraph. But it's a small sound clip with a decent soundlevel so it
shouldn't blast you nor convince you that the speaker's not live when it's
up full blast.
Another good sample sound would be whatever shipped as the startup noise for
your GUI, even if you don't otherwise prefer to use it. It's usually a nice
glissando of some sort.
> Darlene
>
> detect soundcard
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:07:43 -0700
From: Rick Moen
Subject: Re: [conspire] sound prob Ensoniq ES1371 on Fedora 7
To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
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Quoting Heather Stern (star at starshine.org):
> There should be a sample WAV of Linux Torvalds saying how he pronounces
> Linux.
http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/misc/english.au
http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/misc/swedish.au
> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur
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Cheers,
Rick Moen Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar?
rick at linuxmafia.com
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