[sf-lug] Meeting notes 2.0

[aaronco36]

> Please feel free to make additions and/or corrections to
> what I remember.

Got onto the virtual meeting late; maybe a bit before 12Noon(?)
IIRC, Victor was asking questions about ternary operators and the use of 
curly brackets {} in bash scripts.

Was myself using PCLinuxOS https://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=2 with the 
LXQt desktop environment on a trial basis on a laptop. Pair of definitely 
unique things about PCLinuxOS as also mentioned in John Paul's 2020 review 
of the same at https://itsfoss.com/pclinuxos-review/ are 1) it uses apt 
and synaptic to handle RPM packages, and 2) it uses SysV init vs systemd 
init and "will continue to do so for the foreseeable future".  For various 
reasons, personally favor using the LXQt desktop of the Devuan GNU+Linux 
fork of Debian without systemd (https://www.devuan.org/ )

A current subject matter of concern brought up on Devuan's Dev1 Galaxy 
Forum is A warning to EU mirror operators.
Quoting the thread's OP from 
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=40810 :
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There is a directive currently in the works in the EU, called Chat Control 
2.0, which may have a detrimental effect on the mirrors in the region, 
depending on how the member state the mirror resides in decides to 
interpret it, may become detrimental, or even force them to shut down, 
depending on the circumstances. We have a list of known mirrors that will 
be affected, if this directive passes.  All operators in this region are 
advised to begin the process of creating emergency backups of their 
servers, if they have not done so.
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In any case, was looking into, downloaded and then installed yt-dlp 
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp on that PCLinuxOS laptop ; yt-dlp being a 
youtube-dl fork based on the now inactive youtube-dlc.

> Ron mentioned codium and pycharm as possible productivity tools
> for python development, and Ken downloaded the tar balls.
> Ken found the pycharm terms of use seemed a bit snoopy, so locally
> installed the VScode.

After installing yt-dlp, was soon afterwards quite effective at viewing 
Python creator Guido van Rossum's thoughts on the 'Best Python IDE: Vim, 
Emacs, PyCharm, or Visual Studio Code?' through something like the command 
string
'yt-dlp_linux www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5mtQhWNezQ && mpv ./Best*webm'
(hint: Guido seems to favor VScode over Pycharm as well; he favorably 
compared the former to Emacs :-\ )


> Attendees:Ron bc, Ken  Victor, Jonathan, Tom, Arron, ...

-Aaron ;-)
aaronco36 at sdf.org