[sf-lug] Sonic: Re: Inexpensive Internet provider in Brisbane?

[Tony Godshall]

I only hear good things about sonic fiber.  My neighborhood won't get
it, apparently, because utilities are required to go underground now
and that's prohibitive.  (I actually got an answer from Dane Jasper on
this after years of hearing nothing beyond the order form bait and
switch to DSL offer)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 5:15 PM Zach Hanna <chezbut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Generally i greatly recommend Sonic, especially if you can get bonded VDSL, or their fiber.
> They are way, way, way less congested than Comcast or any cable provider, regardless of opinions about the 'value proposition' of the rated connection speed...actual throughput during peak times is what matters to me.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Indeed...
>> Was going to reference that as well but hadn't gone to see the current 'status'.
>>
>>
>> 'm......' >>>
>>
>>
>> message ends.
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>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 6:47 PM Tony Godshall <togo at of.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Or you could get your internet from space soon.
>>>
>>> https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starlink-fcc-permit-consumer-internet/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, 2:51 PM Tony Godshall <togo at of.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> MonkeyBrains works great for us, except for the times the
>>>> windowwashers on the building down the hill knocked their equipment
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> Much better than Comcast, 30% cheaper for the same downstream
>>>> bandwidth, and symmetrical upstream.
>>>>
>>>> Of course if we could get fiber in our building, I'd go for that.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 12:03 PM maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > WE had a very shitty experience with 'monkey brains' and would very strongly recommend against giving them
>>>> > a penny and/or any validation.
>>>> > Crap customer service, subcontracting to installers/maintenance who 'claim' to have 0 info when on-site [not their fault in our cases].
>>>> > Subcontractors tell them things are needed and they totally ignore them.
>>>> > People with accounts call them and no one answers the phone(s) and don't return calls.
>>>> > Their customer service and wifi service was independently audited [non-public report] and received a complete fail in every aspect.
>>>> > They say they're going to provide hardware to areas of properties then don't.
>>>> > Their mission was [uncertain current locales] to kiss-ass to get into properties and get their hardware up on roofs then they turn rude,
>>>> > non-responsive, unprofessional, and do a complete 180 with customer service.
>>>> > Opt-out.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 'm......' >>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > message ends.
>>>> > __________________
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Todd Hawley <celticdm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It appears from looking at their coverage map that MonkeyBrains offers service in Brisbane.
>>>> >> That might be an alternative if Sonic doesn't pan out.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -th
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:41 AM aaronco36 <aaronco36 at sdf.org> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Quoting Michael Paoli <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> :
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> >>> Sonic - from my research this past December, and at least for residential,
>>>> >>> if Sonic has fibre to the building, that's all that they'll offer for any
>>>> >>> new service.  No static IPv4, and other limitations on it ... but it has
>>>> >>> bandwidth.
>>>> >>> Sonic still does DSL, and I'm guestimating they'll offer it for new
>>>> >>> service if there's still no fibre to the building.  I didn't price it
>>>> >>> (there's fibre to my building), but I'm guessing the price is
>>>> >>> reasonable(ish?) for their DSL.
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> And directly from the 'Check Availability' quote from Sonic's Residential
>>>> >>> page https://www.sonic.com/residential using a pair of residential
>>>> >>> addresses in SF's Sunset District :
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>>>> >>> One Service Available
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> RECOMMENDED
>>>> >>> Internet + Home Phone
>>>> >>> Your internet speed: 20 Mbps
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 'Your price'$40/MO
>>>> >>> Save $10 for 12 months
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regular price: $50/mo
>>>> >>> Get $10 off Sonic service for first 12 mos
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Internet delivered over AT&T's network using one Fiber-to-the-Node data
>>>> >>> line, plus one home phone line.
>>>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Would the 'Check Availability' probes revealing that Sonic could deliver
>>>> >>> Internet "over AT&T's network" mean that "there's still no fibre to the
>>>> >>> building" (as Michael P wrote above) for these particular Sunset District
>>>> >>> customers, that Sonic would have to rely upon AT&T's pre-existing
>>>> >>> "Fiber-to-the-Node" data line, and that therefore the quoted 20 Mbps
>>>> >>> Internet speed is that of lower-end DSL speeds, yes?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Please feel free to elaborate upon this :-)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ((No, I did _not_ (yet) scope out Sonic's Internet service provisions in
>>>> >>> Brisbane or Daly City! ))
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -A
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> aaronco36 at sdf.org
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