[sf-lug] Debian Project's up-to-date proposals re: init systems

aaronco36 aaronco36 at SDF.ORG
Tue Nov 19 13:22:28 PST 2019


Well, it turns out that some fairly-obvious systemd init supporters came 
out with a bit of a sleight-of-hand runaround 'Proposal D Choice 4: 
Support non-systemd systems, without blocking progress' in today's "Debian 
Project General Resolution: Init Systems and systemd" [1]

Directly quoting from [1]:
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NON-INIT-RELATED DECLARATIVE SYSTEMD FACILITIES

9. systemd provides a variety of facilities besides daemon startup. For 
example, creating system users or temporary directories. Current Debian 
approaches are often based on debhelper scripts. In general more 
declarative approaches are better. Where - systemd provides such facility 
- a specification of the facility (or suitable subset) exists - the 
facility is better than the other approaches available in Debian, for 
example by being more declarative - it is reasonable to expect developers 
of non-systemd systems including non-Linux systems to implement it - 
including consideration of the amount of work involved the facility should 
be documented in Debian Policy (by textual incorporation, not by reference 
to an external document). The transition should be smooth for all users. 
The non-systemd community should be given at least 6 months, preferably at 
least 12 months, to develop their implementation. (The same goes for any 
future enhancements.) If policy consensus cannot be reached on such a 
facility, the Technical Committee should decide based on the project's 
wishes as expressed in this GR.
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As I previously wrote in [2], there are still the Debian-based, 
non-systemd distros MX Linux, antiX, Devuan GNU+Linux, etc, which one 
hopes Ian Jackson and his Proposal D Seconds will not be able to get their 
"declaratively approaching" grubby hands on in order to "enhance" and 
subsequently disable/break :-\

-A


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References
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[1]https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002
[2]http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2019q4/014448.html
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