[sf-lug] USB 3.0 Flash Drives - Penguin shaped and others

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aaron with 'sort of'' continuing your #3...
also booting TAILS on various systems for going online 'safer' and leaving
no 'footprint'...


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On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 9:05 AM aaronco36 <aaronco36 at sdf.org> wrote:

> Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > What I was commenting on was your focussing primarily and
> > increasingly on live distros booted from flash drives, in
> > your offerings to SF-LUG. What I was saying is that this mode
> > of deployment portrays Linux badly because of dreadfully bad
> > mass-storage performance, and that the running system cannot
> > be reasonably maintained and expanded, hence the user doesn't
> > really experience a representative system, just a limited but
> > working model of one.  That has very slow disc reads.  ;->
> >
> > It's the difference between tourism and living somewhere.  And,
> > what I was saying is that an installed system running in a VM
> > is, unlike a live distro booted from a flash drive, a real and
> > realistic Linux system, that a user can try out and see how
> > things go without having to devote an entire computer to it.
>
>
> Probably obvious to most, but my own takeaway lessons from this discussion
> are that there are three defensible use-case modes of deployment for USB
> sticks:
>
> 1. Portable mass-storage only (without the ability to live boot).
>
> 2. Live distro booting _without_ mass-storage capability for the dedicated
> purposes of a) running various utilities and "touristy" tasks (e.g.,
> troubleshooting, evaluating Linux driver support for hardware, viewing a
> distro's novel or revamped D.E./packages, taking an unfamiliar OS out for
> a demo, ...etc.) and b) eventual installation to hard drive.
>
> 3. Live distro booting _with_ persistent storage onto either the selfsame
> USB stick (portable convenience of data but slow disc reads) or onto the
> hard drive(s) of the host system (much faster disc reads for data but
> decidedly non-portable.)
>
> Again, these are probably obvious to most if not all folks reading this
> :-|
>
> To ramble on a bit more...
>
> A helpful use-case scenario for me for using a live distro booting with
> persistent storage as per #3 above is to install Knoppix onto a 64GB USB
> stick -- as the prices for this capacity seem to be falling over time --
> and then save each individual guest Virtual Machine disc images from a
> full host install of a Virtual Machine Manager (e.g., the virtualbox VMM)
> up to ~54 GB as persistent storage on that selfsame 64GB USB stick.  This
> way, one could have the advantage of using Knoppix's portable live boot
> utilities and features when needed as well as having the ability to save
> and transfer guest VM disc images between different hosting systems,
> making the assumption on my end that a) the hosting systems themselves
> could be disc-space limited for containing too many _multiple_ VM disc
> images and that b) the VM disc images can/should optimimally be copied via
> the USB stick onto the hard drives of host systems for reasons of
> performance but for _limited-time-use_ on each host system (because of
> possible disc-space limitations on a particular hosts system.)  One could
> even make certain in this scenario that the _maximum_ size of each virtual
> machine disc image can only be something like 40 GB, in order to use the
> remaining 10 GB+ of persistent USB-stick storage for portability of non-VM
> disc image data as required.
>
> One could also carry out the similar scenario using 32 GB USB sticks with
> Knoppix installed for using the remaining ~25 GB of persistent storage.
> The drawbacks of this are a) VM disc images are limited to that maximum
> size of 25 GB and b) very minimal extra disc space can subsequently get
> allotted for any extra non-VM disc image data.
>
> -A
>
> aaronco36 at sdf.org
>
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