[sf-lug] updates Re: SF-LUG Sunday March 3, 2019 meeting notice

Bobbie Sellers bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com
Sat Mar 2 09:24:25 PST 2019



On 3/2/19 8:36 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Bobbie Sellers (bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com):
>
>> I think if you dig a bit you might find that 10 years of support is
>> limited to business customers.   I know I thought that sounded good
>> and someone (not you?) pointed out that it was limited to presumably
>> paying customers,
> You're probably right.
>
> Oddly enough, I did try to find something more specific and definitive
> than a Shuttleworth keynote remark, and in particular tried to find
> something on Ubuntu's own Web site stating a support policy for 18.04
> LTS longer than 5 years for _anyone_ -- and found nothing.  Until just now.
>
> The one bit that suggests the extra five years will be available to
> paying customers only is on https://www.ubuntu.com/esm .
>
> Wow, they sure could be a lot clearer.  ;->
>
> Honestly, though, I really scratch my head at the notion of wanting to
> run antique software versions with only bugfix patches for ten years.
> It seems a really bizarre thing to consider desirable, at all -- at
> least to me.

     Yes to personal users/volunteer administrators it may seem bizarre but
to business users it seems like a good way to save time and thus money.
     We see that business users are the slowest to adopt new versions of
that ever colorful Microsoft Program launcher.  Some are still using XP
and hated to give up 95.

     As for me I run a rolling release and am up to Linux 4.20.13 yesterday.
And if you want to split hairs, the base of the system is from 2017.03 
if not
earlier.  It would be even earlier but KDE's Plasma 5 necessitated a
fresh install as it was incompatible with KDE's Plasma 4.   I hope
they hold off on such radical changes in the near future.

     Gnome 3+ is now tied to systemd by the way, not that I ever
thought it was what I wanted to run.  I tried out the Gnome 2.x
under Mandriva for 2 weeks more or less and was very disappointed
by its handling of many areas when compared with KDE 3.x.

     bliss
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