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[maestro]

[Quoting Ken S.]
>>What does the vendor of the box/motherboard offer in the way of firmware
>>updates?  Hopefully not just a Windows executable. If just a DOS
executable, >>I can bring a DOS boot USB.


Be back with you on this...
Thank you for the offer(s)...
Will wait and see if anyone responds with interest in doing it.


'maestro'


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On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 9:21 AM Ken Shaffer <kenshaffer80 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Maestro,
> What does the vendor of the box/motherboard offer in the way of firmware
> updates?  Hopefully not just a Windows executable. If just a DOS
> executable, I can bring a DOS boot USB.  The nice ones offer to patch at
> boot time.  Firmware patching always involves some risk (I doubt you are
> bringing an UPS!), so if there haven't been any significant fixes noted in
> the release notes for updates after your current one, I'd skip it.  The
> Intel Compute Sticks I've been playing with had a hugh number of problems
> initially, all avoided with a firmware update, so in that case, I recommend
> doing the update before anything else (easy since there is a function key
> at boot for the firmware update).
>   Speaking of Intel Compute Sticks, I found Lubutnu and Xubuntu 18.04 both
> run fine on them, except for the lack of bluetooth for the rtl8723bs
> hardware on the 4.15 kernel.   Bluetooth works on earlier kernels, but 4.15
> has long term support, so that's what I want. I'm finding my Android
> devices really don't like to join ad-hoc networks, so the demo I was
> planning for using a phone/tablet as the display for the ICS isn't as easy
> to set up at Cafe Enchante as I'd hoped (A netbook/ICS combo works fine in
> ad-hoc, and with x11vnc over ssh I can see the whole ICS desktop in a
> window).
> See you Sun.
> Ken
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:49 AM Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>
>> Quoting maestro (maestro415 at gmail.com):
>>
>> > I have a box I am going to offer for use at the meeting Sunday
>> > 2018.*09*.02 to do a distro build from 'scratch' meaning 'naked' hard
>> > drive
>>
>> How much total RAM?
>>
>> Planning starts there.  Find out, and post the figure here.  (Get
>> it from Power On Self-Test = POST and/or BIOS Setup screens.)
>>
>>
>> > and possibly even reflashing BIOS
>>
>> To solve _what problem_, by the way?
>>
>> Earlier this month, you wanted a seminar during the then-upcoming BALUG
>> meeting to learn how to do diagnosis.  I mused a bit on CABAL's mailing
>> list about some (pithily worded) candidate principles of diagnosis.  One
>> was:
>>
>> o  Make sure you are extremely clear on what the problem _is_.
>>
>> (If one is not clear on what the problem is, and why one is trying to
>> address it, then maybe figuring out _that_ is a higher priority.)
>>
>> The others were:
>>
>> o  Observe all symptoms, and keep detailed records.
>> o  Where possible, establish known-good and known-bad components.
>> o  Where possible, use simple tools with reliable, known traits.
>> o  Any candidate explanation must account for all the symptoms.
>> o  Don't trust any candidate explanation you haven't tested.
>> o  Distrust coincidence.
>> o  Always remember that causes are only imputed, not an empirical reality.
>> o  Be careful not to change more than one thing at a time.
>> o  See if you can eliminate groups of possible causes, e.g.,
>>    to test whether it's hardware or software.
>> o  Lateral thinking often wins.
>>
>>
>>
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