[sf-lug] Considering purchasing a lightweight laptop: thoughts Thinkpad X1 carbon vs. Thinkpad T460S

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

Unknown. All I can say is that I spent many hours down at CABAL trying
to get such a laptop to work without blacklisting all modules which
could possibly touch the chip, and I never succeeded. I do not
remember whether I attempted to install the proprietary nVidia drivers
as well, and I likely didn't, because the use case left no room for
them, and I did not trust RPM to clean up after them.

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Antonio Malcolm
<antonio.malcolm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Eh? Is there something about the Skylake architecture, which precludes the
> reliable use of proprietary GPU drivers?
>
>
> ~Antonio
>
> On Dec 26, 2016 22:12, "Daniel Gimpelevich"
> <daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>>
>> And if you do get a Skylake laptop for GNU/Linux, avoid discrete
>> graphics like the plague.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>> > Quoting Jon Lam (jonplam at gmail.com):
>> >
>> >> I do not mean to hijack this discussion. Does anyone have any
>> >> experience
>> >> running dual boot Windows and Linux on the Acer V Nitro?  I have a
>> >> older
>> >> mid 2010 Mac Book Pro and am looking at a different configuration.
>> >
>> > I'll be very surprised if anyone on this mailing list satisfies that
>> > extremely specific request.
>> >
>> > If as I suspect nobody says "By a freakish coincidence, I happen to
>> > dual-boot that exact model.  What do you want to know?", perhaps you can
>> > follow up by saying what actual problem you're trying to solve.
>> >
>> > For example, you might be trying to ask "Would I have Linux driver
>> > problems on an Acer V Nitro?"  Part of your problem there is that Acer V
>> > Nitro isn't a specific model.  It's the marketing name for a series of
>> > laptop models, all of them pitched at gamers.
>> >
>> > All of those use Intel Skylake-architecture motherboard chipsets and
>> > Nvidia GTX960M graphics chips.  I personally wouldn't touch Skylake at
>> > this point.  Linux support requires a fairly cutting-edge kernels as
>> > Matthew Garrett described this past April:
>> > https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/41713.html
>> > As far as cutting-edge Nvidia graphics chips aimed at gamers, I'd
>> > personally avoid those, too, as they're open source-hostile.  (You would
>> > end up needing to retrofit Nvidia's  propritary drivers.)
>> >
>> > Why Acer V Nitro?  Gamer usage?
>> >
>> > Also, unless you have something about your use-case that is best
>> > addressed with dual boot, consider a VM solution instead, so you can
>> > use both OSes concurrently and needn't juggle a complicated bootloader
>> > setup.  In my experience, dual-boot is almost always a tactical error,
>> > most often chosen mainly because the user didn't consider alternatives.
>> >
>> >
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