[sf-lug] Bye-bye sf-lug.info., sf-lug.org remains canonical (and sf-lug.com non-canonical alternate)

Tue Oct 11 22:55:46 PDT 2016

Hmmmmm, though I'd sent a follow-up email on this one, but seems
perhaps I didn't?

So, yes, did finish ripping out most of those infrastructure bits
on 2016-09-30, notably DNS slave(s), master(s),
and most of the web (virtual name host, etc.) bits ... though
peeking, I see some bits of that still left (or maybe
I didn't quite get all that out yet).  And, I think I mentioned
earlier, as for SSL/TLS cert, won't bother pulling out
sf-lug.info, just won't include it at next renewal
(which is on my calendar):
2016-11-14 2016-11-15T06:30:00+0000 BALUG/SF-LUG letsencrypt.org SSL  
cert expires for host(s):  
www.balug.org,www.sf-lug.org,www.ipv6.balug.org,www.ipv6.sf-lug.org,balug.org,sf-lug.org,archive.balug.org,www.archive.balug.org,beta.balug.org,www.beta.balug.org,ipv6.balug.org,new.balug.org,lists.new.balug.org,www.new.balug.org,secure.balug.org,www.secure.balug.org,test.balug.org,php.test.balug.org,www.php.test.balug.org,www.test.balug.org,wiki.balug.org,www.wiki.balug.org,ipv6.sf-lug.org,sf-lug.com,ipv6.sf-lug.com,www.ipv6.sf-lug.com,www.sf-lug.com,sf-lug.info,ipv6.sf-lug.info,www.ipv6.sf-lug.info,www.sf-lug.info

I'm pretty dang sure I also opted the Network Solutions Web.com  
account of out all
of their "marketing" (spam) communications ... but got another email  
from 'em today
that is definitely not purely for the function of the account and  
domain - it's
"marketing" (spam).  And I think I opted the account out on or around  
2016-09-30 -
more than enough time for 'em to turn that goop off by now.  I'll double and
triple check, but might be time for me to start calling 'em on their dime (it
is toll free) to chew up some 'o their time to stop their "marketing" (spam)
emails.

> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: Bye-bye sf-lug.info., sf-lug.org remains canonical (and  
> sf-lug.com non-canonical alternate)
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:12:16 -0700

> And, looks like Network Solutions / Web.com has pulled the plug
> on sf-lug.info, so I'll rip out those related infrastructure
> bits rather soon.
>
> references/excerpts:
> $ dig -t NS sf-lug.info. +trace | grep -i '^sf-lug\.info\.'
> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS       
> ns1.pendingrenewaldeletion.com.
> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS       
> ns2.pendingrenewaldeletion.com.
> $
>
>> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
>> Subject: Re: Bye-bye sf-lug.info., sf-lug.org remains canonical  
>> (and sf-lug.com non-canonical alternate)
>> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 08:35:05 -0700
>
>> So ... auto-renew grace period, etc.
>> Looks like for .com, it probably goes
>> 30 30 5
>> Auto-Renew/Expired Grace Period
>> Redemption Grace Period
>> Pending Delete
>> respectively, in days.
>> Icann show 0-45 days for Auto-Renew Grace Period ... but looks
>> (from what I see of quick searches on .com) that it's probably
>> exactly 30 days for com TLD.
>> So ... sf-lug.info. ... we watch it wither away in about 30 (35 to 80) days.
>> I'll probably rip out SF-LUG's related infrastructure bits a
>> little bit after registrar is no longer delegating that DNS
>> to us - at which point it's pretty well on its way to being
>> fully dead for us.
>>
>>> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
>>> Subject: Bye-bye sf-lug.info., sf-lug.org remains canonical (and  
>>> sf-lug.com non-canonical alternate)
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:39:21 -0700
>>
>>> So, yes, per earlier communications, we say bye-bye to
>>> sf-lug.info. - something Web.Com / Network Solutions gave us that we didn't
>>> ask for and didn't particularly want anyway.  From my calendar:
>>> 2016-09-28 sf-lug.info domain expires 2016-09-28T20:01:47Z
>>> $ (for ns in $(dig -t NS info. +short); do dig +noall +norecurse  
>>> +authority @"$ns" -t ANY sf-lug.info.; done) | sort -u
>>> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS      ns1.sf-lug.info.
>>> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS      ns2.he.net.
>>> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS      ns3.he.net.
>>> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS      ns4.he.net.
>>> sf-lug.info.            86400   IN      NS      ns5.he.net.
>>> $
>>> Okay, so it's not been fully killed yet, but ...
>>> and peeking at whois(1) - it's the regular registrar auto-renew
>>> shenanigans ... they do that effectively upstream, and can
>>> revocably do it ... for a while, ... so they do, ... then they hope,
>>> while they have a (strangle)hold on the domain for a bit, they try to
>>> extort money out of "old" customer, or sell it off at a premium to new ...
>>> but they can only do that for so long ... then they have to either pay up,
>>> or give it up - and they generally do the latter (unless someone else is
>>> beating their doors down for the domain).
>>> And checking the web.com/networksolutions.com account, it shows as
>>> expired, and not set to auto-renew ... so we'll just wait 'em out
>>> and let that one wither on the vine ... then I'll rip out it's bit
>>> of infrastructure (DNS slaves and master, web virtual name hosting,
>>> SSL certs I'll just (not) deal with for [*.]sf-lug.info as those come
>>> up for renewal ... and that'll be 'bout it.
>>> So, ... since it's not (quite) dead yet ... I'll just wait bit longer
>>> and rip out those infrastructure bits a little later (and doesn't hurt
>>> much if they're cleaned up a bit after the domain does it's final  
>>> bye-bye ...
>>> but do want to clean that out and not leave that cruft around too long).
>>>
>>> references/excerpts:
>>> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/
>>> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2016q1/011617.html
>>> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2016q1/011612.html
>>>
>>>> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
>>>> To: "Jim Stockford" <jim at well.com>
>>>> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
>>>> Subject: Re: after I get the domain names over to Joker
>>>> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 11:03:32 -0800
>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> and as for sf-lug.info - I think we can quite safely just let  
>>>> that one expire
>>>> 2016-09-28T20:01:47Z, unless you and/or other(s) want to pay to  
>>>> hang onto it to
>>>> merely prevent anyone else from snagging the sf-lug.info domain.