[sf-lug] A command short enough to be tweeted can bring down systemd

mandog kelvinat at gmail.com
Sat Oct 8 13:55:06 PDT 2016


All systems are hackable 13 year old kids do it all the time, I run
both void and Arch If I could be bothered to sit their for months I
could do the same to runnit or any other init system, so what is the
point of your post except  for stirring shit.
Sorry but I say it as it is nothing personal.

On 08/10/2016, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting Bobbie Sellers (bliss-sf4ever at dslextreme.com):
>
>>         So no big Whoop1
>
> Except that that takedown of critical system infrastructure in that
> fashion _should never have been possible at all_.  Ability to sabotage
> the entire system init as any regular non-root user shows starkly the
> nature of systemd's fundamental design problems.  And those, unlike
> implementation flaws, aren't going to be fixed.
>
> As Ranum puts it:
>
>   Richard Feynman's "Personal Observations on the Reliability of the
>   Space Shuttle"[link] used to be required reading for the software
>   engineers that I hired. It contains some profound thoughts on
>   expectation of reliability and how it is achieved in complex systems.
>   In a nutshell its meaning to programmers is: "Unless your system was
>   supposed to be hackable then it shouldn't be hackable."
>
> http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/
>
>
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