[sf-lug] stupid password sites (reinventing the wheel, poorly)

Daniel Gimpelevich daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us
Sat Oct 8 02:25:24 PDT 2016


Top-posting, because you did, and it's viral:

If I read your post right, you have that backwards:
https://wiki.sonic.net/wiki/Password_Guidelines

On Fri, 2016-10-07 at 23:02 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote:
> Speaking of reinventing the wheel poorly:
> Password: Must not be a dictionary word
> And, the password I tried to set?:
> l+zZu3q55`$8!{dk
> And, you wonder why folks often end up picking poor passwords.
> Well, when sites stubbornly and stupidly reject perfectly good
> fine secure passwords, folks will often resort to poor passwords.
> Okay, it's not a good password *now* that it's been publicly posted,
> etc.  But, prior to that it was.  And I don't know what crack they're
> smokin', but I'm sure they ain't got that in no dictionary - at least
> certainly not before my posting it here.  Geez.  This is 2016.
> This it the kind'a misbehavior I'd expect from a web site done in like
> 1996 or so.  Two decades later you'd think they'd stop doing such
> stupid stuff.  The problem has long since been solved, yet folks keep
> screwing it up with stupid web sites that get it wrong.
> 
> 
> > From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [sf-lug] ... bring down systemd, Devuan?, choices, Usenet, ...
> > Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 22:47:51 -0700
> 
> > Those that are obsessed with reinventing the wheel,
> > will generally do so ... and poorly, at that.  Repeating
> > many mistakes that were made before, and occasionally
> > coming up with new mistakes ... though generally not
> > totally and fundamentally new - mostly just the same
> > old bad goop all over again, but in slightly different
> > form, and failing to learn from the history, and pick
> > up problems and errors, from various problems that weren't
> > present had they not "reinvented" whatever.
> 
> 
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