[sf-lug] ... bring down systemd, Devuan?, choices, Usenet, ...

[Rick Moen]

Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu):

> And Debian is also about freedom and choice.  Sure, systemd is
> currently the default on Debian, but it's definitely not the only
> init system available on Debian.  I manage a fair number of Debian
> systems.  All of which are Debian GNU/Linux 8.x (jessie)
> or newer - so they all would have systemd by default at install
> or when upgraded to 8.x jessie.  And, on all but one of 'em,
> I'm thus far running systemd ... because, at least thus far,
> all but one of 'em has given me zero problems with systemd.
> And the one that's not running systemd?  Yeah, systemd was
> annoyingly problematic and non-cooperative when I did the
> upgrade to jessie - so after about half an hour to an hour
> of trying to get it to play nice and basically work, I booted
> the earlier init system - which worked fine - and then later
> took the well documented steps to effectively disable use of
> systemd in Debian - and thus far that's been perfectly fine and
> haven't looked back.

I've done my own set of docs about how to very easily get to your choice
of OpenRC (with PID1 from SysVinit) or runit or sysvinit or upstart or
nosh.  

Tested thoroughly in a VM on my laptop, and it works great.
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/openrc-conversion.html

s6 would be really interesting to experiment with
(http://skarnet.org/software/s6/why.html), but FWIW nobody is making
.debs available for it at this time.