[sf-lug] Bye-bye sf-lug.info., sf-lug.org remains canonical (and sf-lug.com non-canonical alternate)
Michael Paoli
Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu
Thu Sep 29 08:35:05 PDT 2016
So ... auto-renew grace period, etc.
Looks like for .com, it probably goes
30 30 5
Auto-Renew/Expired Grace Period
Redemption Grace Period
Pending Delete
respectively, in days.
Icann show 0-45 days for Auto-Renew Grace Period ... but looks
(from what I see of quick searches on .com) that it's probably
exactly 30 days for com TLD.
So ... sf-lug.info. ... we watch it wither away in about 30 (35 to 80) days.
I'll probably rip out SF-LUG's related infrastructure bits a
little bit after registrar is no longer delegating that DNS
to us - at which point it's pretty well on its way to being
fully dead for us.
> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Bye-bye sf-lug.info., sf-lug.org remains canonical (and
> sf-lug.com non-canonical alternate)
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 23:39:21 -0700
> So, yes, per earlier communications, we say bye-bye to
> sf-lug.info. - something Web.Com / Network Solutions gave us that we didn't
> ask for and didn't particularly want anyway. From my calendar:
> 2016-09-28 sf-lug.info domain expires 2016-09-28T20:01:47Z
> $ (for ns in $(dig -t NS info. +short); do dig +noall +norecurse
> +authority @"$ns" -t ANY sf-lug.info.; done) | sort -u
> sf-lug.info. 86400 IN NS ns1.sf-lug.info.
> sf-lug.info. 86400 IN NS ns2.he.net.
> sf-lug.info. 86400 IN NS ns3.he.net.
> sf-lug.info. 86400 IN NS ns4.he.net.
> sf-lug.info. 86400 IN NS ns5.he.net.
> $
> Okay, so it's not been fully killed yet, but ...
> and peeking at whois(1) - it's the regular registrar auto-renew
> shenanigans ... they do that effectively upstream, and can
> revocably do it ... for a while, ... so they do, ... then they hope,
> while they have a (strangle)hold on the domain for a bit, they try to
> extort money out of "old" customer, or sell it off at a premium to new ...
> but they can only do that for so long ... then they have to either pay up,
> or give it up - and they generally do the latter (unless someone else is
> beating their doors down for the domain).
> And checking the web.com/networksolutions.com account, it shows as
> expired, and not set to auto-renew ... so we'll just wait 'em out
> and let that one wither on the vine ... then I'll rip out it's bit
> of infrastructure (DNS slaves and master, web virtual name hosting,
> SSL certs I'll just (not) deal with for [*.]sf-lug.info as those come
> up for renewal ... and that'll be 'bout it.
> So, ... since it's not (quite) dead yet ... I'll just wait bit longer
> and rip out those infrastructure bits a little later (and doesn't hurt
> much if they're cleaned up a bit after the domain does it's final bye-bye ...
> but do want to clean that out and not leave that cruft around too long).
>
> references/excerpts:
> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/
> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2016q1/011617.html
> http://linuxmafia.com/pipermail/sf-lug/2016q1/011612.html
>
>> From: "Michael Paoli" <Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu>
>> To: "Jim Stockford" <jim at well.com>
>> Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
>> Subject: Re: after I get the domain names over to Joker
>> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2016 11:03:32 -0800
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> and as for sf-lug.info - I think we can quite safely just let that
>> one expire
>> 2016-09-28T20:01:47Z, unless you and/or other(s) want to pay to
>> hang onto it to
>> merely prevent anyone else from snagging the sf-lug.info domain.
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