[sf-lug] request for help re ssh -- sshd login failure

[maestro]

quoting jim s.

>I am doing nothing
>different this year yet am consistently
>failing with network connectivity. Have
>there been any changes that are foiling us?

welcome to world wide wacky connections linux tent!
NOT distro specific, not specifically user error, not network management
software specific (though each has its own 'attitude'), not hardware
blameable (though yes, of course hardware 'can' be a culprit)...it's the
neverending linux has connection problems/issues loop that NO ONE in the
linux community wants to talk about after they get their machine to connect
to SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE, SOMEHOW (save the KICKASS arch linux networking
how to and general networking wikis with 'also rans' going to a couple
other pages AND a community thankful to the coders of kali linux(formerly
backtrack linux which was ubuntu based now debian based).

it is truly sad that linux is getting the 'network dropped' rep. almost
akin to...yup...micros%#@ system crash rep..

hope you find healing and connectivity...may the force be with you...

sent from a barely hanging on connection, hopefully don't have to reboot
after clicking [send].


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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:21 PM, jim <jim at well.com> wrote:

>
> Thank you, Rick. We expect to keep working on
> this platform even if we set up something else,
> too. If something else works, we're going to
> want to discover the significant differences.
>
> I don't believe that there is a Ubuntu bug
> that is foiling us.
>
> I, at least, am too ignorant to do much other
> than flail. The biggest problem is to know
> where to start looking.
>
> We have not tried using the ssh client on the
> sshd host and logging into lo
>
> We have inspected log files and config files.
>
> We will investigate the options to ssh and
> sshd and whatever else seems to be relevant
> and increase verbosity.
>
> It seems worth repeating that I've set up
> server systems successfully in the 2005 to
> 2013 period and that I am doing nothing
> different this year yet am consistently
> failing with network connectivity. Have
> there been any changes that are foiling us?
>
> Again, thanks.
>
>
>
> On 02/09/2016 05:17 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Quoting Jim Stockford (jim at well.com):
>
>
>     Absolutely right, of course.
>     We're considering throwing the baby, bath-water,
> bath tub, sink and the rest of the house 'cause
> it's easy.
>
> This is true -- but part of the price is that you learn nothing.
>
>
>     Our thinking is that a distro represents a
> particular build, which is guided by particular
> policies and implemented by particular humans.
>
> Yet, it's really not credible that Ubuntu, as questionable as its
> quality control has often been, would furnish a broken sshd
> configuration.
>
> IMO, you should use this as an opportunity to learn real-world
> troubleshooting -- which starts with suppressing the urge to flail
> around making changes out of desperation without a credible plan.
> Frankly, setting home directories to 777 and screwing around with PAM is
> the latter, even though you call it 'an experiment'.
>
> You should be solving your ssh problem using fundamentals, e.g., can you
> ssh to localhost?  What do logfiles say?  Can you learn anything by
> adding verbosity options to your ssh client command?
>
>
>
>
>
> If we move into a RedHat type house and succeed with
> what we want, maybe we'll just settle in. We can
> always build another Ubuntu house and try to see
> what are the significant differences between the
> two. We can even run them side by side.
>     At this point, everything is wide open for us.
> Ultimately we want to run an Ubuntu server platforma
>
> Um, why?  What problem are you actually attempting to solve?
> If you're just doing more tire-kicking of distros, maybe you should
> start with VMs.
>
> FWIW, the one Ubuntu Server installation I've had foisted off onto me
> (www.svlug.org) has left me profoundly unimpressed with the adequacy of
> that for servers, but make up your own mind.
>
>
>
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