[sf-lug] Debian & non-free (was: /firmware/radeon)

maestro maestro415 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 21 13:19:24 PST 2015


indeed...
i do 'try' to F.L.O.S.S.  as much as possible which is one reason i didn't
non-default but is NO excuse.
thank you for sharing this...


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On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Michael Paoli <
Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> From: maestro <maestro415 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] /firmware/radeon
>> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 21:41:22 -0800
>>
>
> yup, installed both now, and thank you daniel as well, of course being a
>> DUMBASS i hadn't added the non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list after
>> 'RE'install as it has to be done 'manually', so the non-free package
>> wasn't
>> coming up.
>>
>
> If I recall correctly, Debian will ask if you want to include non-free, at
> least if one
> picks sufficiently lower-level non-default installation - e.g. one may
> have to select
> one of the "Advanced" options from the boot menu.  When it asks, answer in
> the non-default
> affirmative regarding non-free, and it will configure it for you in
> /etc/apt/sources.list.
>
> That probably won't automagically get one the non-free firmware - one will
> likely have to
> answer in the non-default affirmative at least one more time to have it
> install that - or
> might have to issue a manual command.  The Debian installation
> documentation also rather well
> covers non-free firmware, as that's a fairly common issue, and can be an
> issue quite early
> on (e.g. if needed for hard-wired Ethernet port and one is using that to
> install from/over).
>
> Also, there is "Debian Live" - if one wants to try that DVD - e.g. see how
> it would run,
> before installing - and that comes in versions that include non-free - and
> I'd guestimate
> probably includes the non-free firmware, as that's often a key needed bit
> from non-free.
>
> Oh, and if one wants, there's also at least one Debian package which one
> can install to remind
> one of what non-free software one has installed, and possible alternatives
> that may exist.
> $ dpkg -l vrms | grep '^ii'
> ii  vrms           1.16         all          virtual Richard M. Stallman
> $
> :-)
> $ apt-cache show vrms | less
> ...
> Description-en: virtual Richard M. Stallman
>  The vrms program will analyze the set of currently-installed packages
>  on a Debian-based system, and report all of the packages from the
>  non-free and contrib trees which are currently installed.
>  .
>  In some cases, the opinions of Richard M. Stallman and the Debian project
>  have diverged since this program was originally written.  In such cases,
> this
>  program follows the Debian Free Software Guidelines.
>  .
>  Note that vrms is not limited to Debian systems only (which means that
>  it also works with Debian-derived distributions such as Ubuntu). It is
>  also not limited to Linux-based systems.
>  .
>  Future versions of vrms may include an option to also display text
>  from the public writings of RMS and others that explain why use of each
>  of the installed non-free packages might cause moral issues for some in
>  the Free Software community.  This functionality is not yet included.
>
>
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