Mailing lists using usenet newsgroup

Bobbie Sellers bliss-sf4ever at
Tue Jan 6 10:46:42 PST 2015

On 01/06/2015 10:22 AM, jason stone wrote:
> Respectfully, I'm not sure any of this fear of Google matters in this
> situation since a few of us receive these direct mailers at Gmail
> accounts.  Google has the information already.
> I'd prefer that these emails go through some kind of list so that it makes
> filtering easier and I don't have this massive To: field.  Whether it is
> some home grown solution as it has been, or Yahoo Group, or a Google Group.
     Google just maintains the archive it took over from DejaVu.
     It has started its own newsgroups but we propose the possibility of 
taking over a
a group largely abandoned due to the company failure.
     And I would rather we had a mailing list too as I have to deal with 
editing the
vast, To: fields and the few bcc; on that list.
     My e-mail address is just a front for a g-mail account by the way 
so there is no
escaping the sleepless eye of Google.

> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:16 AM, jim <jim at> wrote:
>>      Me, too, tho' I don't really know why--probably
>> something about Google's using any and all user
>> meta-data and possibly data (e.g. email messages)
>> to mine keywords.
>>      I have to say that overall I admire Google (partly
>> because I've met some of the employees). Google
>> may be my second favorite big-ass internet system
>> after Amazon, which looks like it will be taking over
>> the world--excellent user data security and also
>> haul-ass inovation--did you know Amazon is now
>> offering 3-D printing for on-demand customized
>> stuff?
>> On 01/06/2015 04:45 AM, maestro wrote:
>> I DO NOT want to use google.
>> That's my vote cast...
>> Message ends.
>> _________________
>> On Thursday, January 1, 2015, Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at>
>> wrote:
>>>>> By they way, Bobbie, is there any reasone we don't set up a Google
>> Group, just
>>>>> for the purpose of using it as a mailing list? Or are there people on
>> this
>>>>> list who prefer not to use Google, which is very understandable?
>>>>> Michael
>>>>      Well Michael, unfortunately I am one of those individuals who care
>> only
>>>> to use Google as search engine.
>>>>      I do use Usenet Newsgroups but it seems few people know how to
>>>> access these groups which in the case of Linux is really a departure
>> from
>>>> its roots.
>>>>      But we could try to propagate an  or we
>>>> could simply
>>>> pick a newsgroup like alt.os.linux.mandriva and use it.   There are
>> Linux
>>>> newsgroups by the way where your query as to p/o of source code
>>>> would be welcome and elicit many replies.
>>>>      I suggest the group mentioned above because i am already
>>>> subscribed to it and
>>>> because since the collapse of the Mandriva company in France it has
>>>> been largely
>>>> empty with only a few posts about arcane Mandriva programs and what OS
>>>> to use when Mandriva is too far behind the curve.
>>>>      If anyone wants help in setting up a news.server account  bring
>>>> it to this
>>>> list and I will do my best as I certainly have made enough mistakes to
>>>> know what can go wrong.   The server I use is eternal-september,
>>>> properly designated and it is a free text
>>>> only server.  If you want a binary group server you most likely will
>>>> have to pay.
>>>>      Bobbie
>>> Hi Bobbie,
>>> That's a very interesting suggestion. I am very familiar with newsgroups
>> from
>>> back in the 80's. Back then we used 'rn' which probably stood for 'read
>> news'.
>>> I tried typing 'rn' just now and Ubuntu suggested I installed trn or trn4
>>> which as I recall stood for "threaded read news" so I'd be very happy
>> with
>>> this.
>>> I invoked trn4 and it says
>>>          Connecting to t61b...connection to Connection refused
>>> t61b is the name of my computer. Do I need to have a local news server
>> running or
>>> can I point trn at some remote server, such as the one you mention?
>>> I used to know all this but it's been many, many years ...
>>> Michael
>> --
>> *~the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear...*

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