[sf-lug] cookies in Ubuntu

Brian Morris cymraegish at gmail.com
Wed Jul 6 17:52:03 PDT 2011

Is there or could there be a way to make this all simple for the end-user,
with an eye towards gettting enough people to do it to frustrate the attacks
enough to make the business not-too-lucrative for the criminals (ie make
them want to find an easier way to make a living).

I mean distill it all down, make it very easy.

By the way I had tried noscript and turned it off whenever I found things
not working right - which means it stayed off.

I'd like to hear user experiences with using this stuff.

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Quoting Mikki McGee (mikkimc at earthlink.net):
> > Thank you all, for the replies.   It is the privacy issue, and the
> > idea that someone is tracking my computer use is a bit repugnant.
> > Sort of pulling the blinds, but not checking under the bed sort of
> > thing.  Somewhere short of paranoia?
> At the risk of seeming to toot my own horn, I really do recommend that
> you read my lecture slides and notes about Firefox browser privacy,
> then, as it's directly relevant to your concerns.  And you should be
> aware that HTTP cookies were merely what the tracking companies relied
> on when they were _just getting started_, in 1995.  They've gotten a
> great deal more sophisticated:  As I described in my lecture, Samy
> Kankar has recently reverse-engineered all of the methods the trackers
> use and how they reinforce and supplement each other -- and JavaScript
> is the glue that holds it all together, which is why NoScript is the key
> piece, if you want to defeat such methods and re-level the playing
> field.
> There are also other reasons to care, other than just not caring to be
> spied on.  A browser that's been de-junked using NoScript, AdBlock Plus,
> OptimizeGoogle, Beef Taco, and either Objection or my hacked cronjob to
> chop off Flash cookies, is markedly faster, less crash-prone, less
> bloated in RAM (despite the extra browser extensions), and resistant to
> many security attacks on browsers, which overwhelmingly rely -- of
> course -- on third-party JavaScript as the attack vector, hence are made
> to go away by NoScript.
> Related article, mentioned in my slides and notes:
> http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/firefox.html
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