[sf-lug] Ubuntu 11.04

Grant Bowman grantbow at ubuntu.com
Sat Apr 30 03:57:20 PDT 2011

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On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Kai Chang <kai.salmon.chang at gmail.com> wrote:
> No one dictates the future of technology. We are all along for the ride.
> I will be grateful my whole life for the emancipating experience of Ubuntu.
> I went from using almost exclusively commercial software to almost
> exclusively free software, plus some web services, in the era of desktop and
> laptop computers.
> What a graceful, optimistic operating system.
> I haven't installed natty yet, but I'm excited about the new keyboard
> shortcuts and window management. Might have to tune down the whiz-bang
> graphics, but hey, I do like to check how elastic minimizing windows are
> before I turn that nonsense off.
> Driver support for new laptops has been fantastic recently. If Ubuntu wants
> to tackle touch devices, I support them with all my heart.
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Eric W. Rasmussen
> <ericwrasmussen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Seriously!!! How hard is it to pre-load Cairo-Dock?  I know that Ubuntu is
>> going after the touch screen market, but winning the desktop is paramount to
>> the tablet market.  I know that we {Linux Users} are in the minority, but it
>> is us that dictates the future of technology.
>> On 04/29/2011 10:58 PM, Ehud Kaldor wrote:
>> i must say that i had similar experience when i tried Gnome3 on Ubuntu
>> 10.10.
>> IT IS a slicker interface, but there were couple of things that i did not
>> get with, and there is no way to change them. no drag drop, no easy config
>> util, no adding applets, not removing or moving them. same favorites menu to
>> begin with, with everything else in a single, jungle slide out menu, with 3
>> columns, looking like a Windows98 start->programs that was left unattended
>> for a million installs.
>> i could do with the config __not fitting my needs__ had there been a way
>> to change anything. it did not occur to me then, but reading what Eric wrote
>> makes me think that in an attempt to appeal to the Windows and Mac market
>> share, both Unity and Gnome3 implemented a locked-down,
>> one-size-will-fit-you-whether-you-like-it-or-not model. too bad.
>> Ehud
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Eric W. Rasmussen
>> <ericwrasmussen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> First, let me state that when it comes time to reinstall Linux, Ubuntu
>>> will not be a choice.  I am at a point now that I am considering redoing
>>> everything just to get this monster off my machine. This is definitely one
>>> of those times when a spare computer comes in handy.  I had read some good
>>> things about 11.04 and it was asking me to upgrade, so I said, "Sure.  What
>>> could possibly go wrong"? I am reminded of Windows Me and Vista.  It's that
>>> bad, or maybe worse.
>>> When it first loaded I expected all of my GUI customizations to be
>>> destroyed, but they weren't.  This made me worry because I was under the
>>> impression that Unity was an independent GUI.  The fact that it held on to
>>> my gnome/nautilus settings meant that there were going to be compatibility
>>> issues.  I was not wrong.
>>> I'm going to start with their pride and joy... that trainwreck of a
>>> launchbar. The thing is huge and unwieldy.  What makes it all worse is that
>>> the main menu is scrapped, so if you want a program that is not in the
>>> launch bar, you have to go and search it out in a full screen jungle. What
>>> they are trying to do here is be more like OSX, but they fail when it comes
>>> to going directly to a folder in "Places"... cuz it ain't there anymore!!!!
>>>  Well, that's not true, exactly.  Just like OSX and "Finder", if you have a
>>> program open it tries to display the menu in the header toolbar.  So you
>>> basically have to minimize all open windows and then... AND GET THIS....
>>> Mouseover on the toolbar to see the places link!!!  It's hidden unless you
>>> know that it is there.  Otherwise, you are forced to click your way through
>>> your /home directory, or worse, open /home and backup to get into /root . No
>>> more quick shortcuts to /var/www/ !!!!
>>> You know how you can have minimized windows in the taskbar?  Not anymore.
>>>  You have to click on the launchbar, just like OSX.  Oh, sure... the
>>> behemoth disappears when a program is in full screen mode (after a while),
>>> but what good is that when you have to switch quickly through programs?
>>> Workspaces has been eternally screwed.  One thing that they did was
>>> disable the drag option.  You know... you want to throw a window over to
>>> another desktop.  But you can't because Unity now tries to resize it like in
>>> Win7.  Which I think is a really great feature when you are dealing with an
>>> OS that doesn't have multiple desktop functionality.  I used to also enjoy
>>> my custom keystroke to show all desktops at once.  Really handy when I want
>>> to minimize everything so that people don't eavesdrop on my work when I get
>>> up for a cup of coffee.
>>> I really liked having my Shutoff Button on the left top.  Now I can't
>>> move it at all from the top right.  In fact, any widget that you wanted to
>>> load in the top bar is gone.  So my systems monitor graph that I use to
>>> watch resources has to be accessed through the applications jungle.  Is
>>> there something up there that is useless to you? Like the Broadcast/Chat
>>> program? It's there forever now.
>>> Good luck reconfiguring it so that it all works.  Even if you do figure
>>> out how to change the size of the Launchbar, the Desktop Effects program
>>> isn't even set as default and it can't be accessed in the Menu Jungle.
>>> I have also noticed that it is sucking battery power a little more than
>>> before.  I've lost about 20 minutes of a 4.5 hour battery.
>>> So, anyway.  I had to go back to Login Screen settings and set it back to
>>> Ubuntu Classic.  It has taken away some of the things that I really liked
>>> about it and I am seriously thinking of switching to another Distro.  Any
>>> recommendations?  I'm a student of Linux with moderate skills.
>>> Thanks for hearing my rant.  Ubuntu 11.04 is junk.
>>> ewr
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