[sf-lug] (forw) Re: (forw) Re: todays meeting at enchanted cafe

Bobbie Sellers bliss at sfo.com
Mon Jan 3 19:16:15 PST 2011

On 01/03/2011 03:27 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Bobbie Sellers (bliss at sfo.com):
>> I will get back to you later about the details but I run Mandriva
>> and use Mandriva's MCC tool accessible from the main menu as "Configure
>> Your Computer".
> This description is pretty much useless to anyone but you or possibly
> someone running exactly the same configuration you are, with the exact
> same Linux distribution -- even if you had bothered to elaborate that
> the 'MCC tool' you mean is Mandrake Control Center (process name 'mcc').
> I believe you just illustrated my recent point about your phrase 'the
> GUI tools'.
> Even if I wanted to bust my butt replicating your exact graphical
> toolset on the Debian box in front of me -- which I most certainly do
> not -- it would not be practical (or, at worst, would be a whole lot of
> work).  And for what?  It would doubtless be a bloated, dependency-ridden
> GTK/gnomelibs front-end to standard Linux tools, suppressing essentially
> all diagnostic output, whose operation nobody can even discuss with you
> in a 'just paste these commands to its interface and paste back to this
> mailing list the command output' sense.  You would be vaguely describing
> your GUI operations, and then posting back your _interpretations_ of the
> results.  Bottom line would be frustration for everyone.
> Which is why you'll find that _knowledgeable_ helpers overwhelmingly
> will suggest you use standard tools and paste back the results, instead.
> Anyway, you should not get back to _me_, but rather to the mailing list.
> This is not free-of-charge private consulting.
      Please stop talking to me so that I can get on with what I understand
doing however so poorly compared to your elite knowledge.  It is hard
to turn a 66 year old HS school education with some military schools
into a computer expert when I didn't even get to seen one until the
1980s when I was far past the age when such knowledge comes easy.

     I did not expect your participation since the initial condition was
the loss of a Microsoft OS on the dual-boot I formerly used.

     Good evening
     Bobbie Sellers

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