[sf-lug] Ubuntu release ("back on-list" sub thread)

jim jim at well.com
Sun Apr 27 23:21:21 PDT 2008

   well, i suspected, but did not intend to duck 
any bullets: rather, i hoped you or LX or someone 
would join in discovering proper rationale. 
   i'm buying your reasoning (i'd guessed such 
but wanted to remain open to other, possibly 
convincing, arguments). 

   for the record, i always want to help out, 
certainly not burden others (especially you), 
and getting involved promotes learning, which is 
my primary interest. 
   as to your comment below aimed at me, i don't 
at all take it as heated. rather, you seem 
direct and to-the-point. 
   in general i consider your remarks well-meaning 
and very helpful, if sometimes a bit impatient 
(and there i'm usually sympathetic). 
   the explanations strike me as helpful to 
more than just the participants: on that score, 
thank you. 

On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 22:37 -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting jim (jim at well.com):
> >    sometimes discussions get a bit frothy, 
> > possibly too frothy. please be mindful that 
> > many reading our threads are hoping to harvest 
> > useful information and may be put off by 
> > heated remarks. 
> _That_ wasn't a particularly heated remark, but you might consider this
> one to be:  When Ernest raised the inevitable dumb idea of munging, your
> comment was "i'm not sure it's a good idea, ultimately, but worth
> inspection."  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing that the "I'm not
> sure it's a good idea" bit indicated that you already _knew_ it was a
> terrible idea, but hoped to duck the bullet on having to explain why,
> letting me take that hit instead and be obliged to waste _my_ time
> dealing with the subject.
> It would be nice if you wouldn't do that.
> Overall, I should probably just adopt Marc Merlin's practice (seen on
> lists.svlug.org) of setting up a nightly crontab script to check all
> Mailman lists and remove any munging instituted by listadmins suffering
> lapses of judgement.  The neat thing about that:  No need to argue and
> explain.  Things get rectified automatically without waste.
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