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Wed Dec 5 00:53:37 PST 2007


1.  an IP address does not necessarily represent a person
2.  dial-up lines can get different IP addresses for each call
3.  NAT based routers show all users at one IP address
4.  more than one person can use a computer
5.  etc.

The problem is that, since a commercial software has these numbers (and advertisers seem to love them) we need a (preferably) Open Source product that can give those stats.  Failing that, we need commercial software that runs on Linux and provides those stats.

I suggested Google-Analytics but for some reason it is forbidden to be used here.

Thanks for your help.


----- Original Message ----
From: Ernest De Leon <edeleonjr at gmail.com>
To: Steven Friese <stvn_consult at yahoo.com>
Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:48:55 PM
Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Web Log Analyzers


I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for when you say "visits by people"...do you mean unique visitors?  I use google analytics for my web sites.  It works great for me.  I can see how many people hit my site, what pages they hit, where they came from (
i.e. search engine, referral), where they are located (geographically), what my bounce rate is, average time on website, average time on site, etc.  What more are you looking for?  

Ernest


On Dec 6, 2007 12:09 PM, Steven Friese <stvn_consult at yahoo.com> wrote:
I work for an online company where one of our sources of revenue is
 advertising.  We switched from using Windows to Linux and are now trying
 to find a replacement for WebTrends.  We would prefer an Open Source

 solution and I have looked at Webalizer, AWStats,w3perl, AWFful and
 Google Analytics so far.  None of these has all the features that WebTrends
 does.  Our marketing people definitely want something like Webtrends

 'Visits by People' statistic.  Anyone know of a Open Source or Commercial
 analysis tool that works on Linux that will give an advertising department the stats they need to make sales?








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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">First of all, let me apologize for the junk at the top of my email request, this is the first time that has ever happened and I don't know the cause.<br><br>In the Webtrends report, there is a page called Visitors Overview.&nbsp; Right under the top graph is a statistic that reads "XXX people visited this site".&nbsp; They also have a number for Absolute Unique Visitors on the same page.<br><br>From what I've read from some Open Source web analyzer docs, there is no real way to get these kinds of statistics since:<br><br>1.&nbsp; an IP address does not necessarily represent a person<br>2.&nbsp; dial-up lines can get different IP addresses for each call<br>3.&nbsp; NAT based routers show all users at one IP
 address<br>4.&nbsp; more than one person can use a computer<br>5.&nbsp; etc.<br><br>The problem is that, since a commercial software has these numbers (and advertisers seem to love them) we need a (preferably) Open Source product that can give those stats.&nbsp; Failing that, we need commercial software that runs on Linux and provides those stats.<br><br>I suggested Google-Analytics but for some reason it is forbidden to be used here.<br><br>Thanks for your help.<br><br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Ernest De Leon &lt;edeleonjr at gmail.com&gt;<br>To: Steven Friese &lt;stvn_consult at yahoo.com&gt;<br>Cc: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com<br>Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 1:48:55 PM<br>Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Web Log Analyzers<br><br>
I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for when you say "visits by people"...do you mean unique visitors?&nbsp; I use google analytics for my web sites.&nbsp; It works great for me.&nbsp; I can see how many people hit my site, what pages they hit, where they came from (
i.e. search engine, referral), where they are located (geographically), what my bounce rate is, average time on website, average time on site, etc.&nbsp; What more are you looking for?&nbsp; <br><br>Ernest<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Dec 6, 2007 12:09 PM, Steven Friese &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:stvn_consult at yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:stvn_consult at yahoo.com">stvn_consult at yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I work for an online company where one of our sources of revenue is<br>&nbsp;advertising. &nbsp;We switched from using Windows to Linux and are now trying<br>&nbsp;to find a replacement for WebTrends. &nbsp;We would prefer an Open Source
<br>&nbsp;solution and I have looked at Webalizer, AWStats,w3perl, AWFful and<br>&nbsp;Google Analytics so far. &nbsp;None of these has all the features that WebTrends<br>&nbsp;does. &nbsp;Our marketing people definitely want something like Webtrends
<br>&nbsp;'Visits by People' statistic. &nbsp;Anyone know of a Open Source or Commercial<br>&nbsp;analysis tool that works on Linux that will give an advertising department the stats they need to make sales?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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