[sf-lug] 32bit VS 64bit

Tom Haddon tom at greenleaftech.net
Fri Oct 19 13:58:06 PDT 2007


On Fri, 2007-10-19 at 16:40 -0400, Blake Haggerty wrote:
> So when I boot up the computer the Error States, "Nvidia Kernel Module
> Does not Match"
>  
> I I reboot straight to runlevel 1. I type sh
> Nvidia-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run

I would not use this. What type of nvidia card do you have? If you have
a newer card, you want the nvidia-glx-new package. If you have an older
card, nvidia-glx is the one. I would run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh
xserver-xorg" to get back to a base X config, and then install those
packages along with the restricted modules, run "sudo nvidia-glx-config
enable", and then you're good to go.

Much easier to have Ubuntu manage it all for you.

If you're upgrading to Gutsy, the Restricted Drivers manager should take
care of all of this for you. I'd get rid of any pre-existing nvidia
stuff before doing that, though, by reconfiguring the xserver-xorg
package.

Thanks, Tom

>  
> It starts a program to install the Nvidia Drivers. The first thing it
> tells me is " No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your
> kernel; Would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel
> interface for your kernel from the Nvidia FTP site?"
>  
> I select Yes
>  
> "No Matching Kernel was found on the Nvidia ftp site this mean that
> the installer  will need to compiile a kernel interface for your
> kernel"
>  
> I select OK
>  
> It then loads a ton of stuff then says:
>  
> "would you like to run nvidia-xconfig utility to auto update youor x
> config file so that the nvidia x driver will be used when you restart
> x? 
>  
> I select Yes
>  
> And  the installer finishes.
>  
> Then I start gdm
> And everything works great Beryl and all. but if I restart the
> computer I get the same dman errors again and a laundry list of
> others...
>  
> 
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>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Tom Haddon tom at greenleaftech.net 
> To: "Blake Haggerty" ;
> Cc: "dryicezero at gmail.com" , "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" ;
> Sent: Oct 18, 2007 10:50:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] 32bit VS 64bit
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2007-10-18 at 13:36 -0400, Blake Haggerty wrote: 
> > As far as the NVIDIA issues go, I installed my new motherboard, 
> > processor and graphics card, then when I powered up, I got an error 
> > with the Xserver stating I didn't have any NVIDIA Drivers
> installed. 
> > It then kicked me just to the command line. I ran the xorgconfig
> and 
> > chose the nv driver and so on went through that and then rebooted
> the 
> > xserver started and I went straight into Gnome. Once in Gnome this 
> > were very slow, when I started Beryl it was extremely choppy and
> slow. 
> > So I went to the NVIDIA website and followed thier instructions on
> how 
> > to install thier drivers. Everything seemed to work great after
> that. 
> > Beryl was lightning fast and everything ran very smooth. Then when
> I 
> > rebooted again BAM Xserver failed again and there was a list of
> 10-15 
> > errors (not at my computer so I cant say what they all said). So I 
> > went back to the commandline and I ran the xorg config again went 
> > through that and then restarted GDM. Got to the gnome desktop, and 
> > Beryl wont even start now... I want to try and reinstall the NVIDIA 
> > drivers but I cant have X running and I need to be at runlevel 3. I 
> > cant figure out how I got to that point to begin with when I
> installed 
> > the first time. 
> 
> I think you're using Ubuntu, right? If so, the package you need is 
> nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new (depending on which card you have).
> You'll 
> also need linux-restricted-modules for the kernel you're using. If
> you 
> do uname -a you'll see what kernel you're running. 
> 
> Once you've installed these, you do sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and
> it 
> will edit your xorg to take advantage of the nvidia module. 
> 
> If you can get the nvidia stuff working from the repos, you'll find
> it 
> much easier in the long run, as otherwise any kernel upgrade will
> break 
> your Xorg (as nvidia modules will need to be rebuilt manually). 
> Restricted drivers manager is supposed to deal with all this stuff. 
> Should be much easier on Gutsy. Compiz/Beryl stuff too, since Compiz 
> Fusion is included by default. 
> 
> Let me know if you have any issues, and I'll be happy to help. 
> 
> Cheers, Tom 
> 
> > 
> > Typically I end up screwing with this stuff for 10-12 hours and 
> > somehow get it to work I never remember how I do it either. I just 
> > wish one time I could manage to do it simply in a matter of
> minutes... 
> > Any inputs or ideas though always seem to help my brain start
> thinking 
> > in a different direction. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Blake Haggerty 
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> > 
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/blakehaggerty 
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> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From:Ernest de Leon dryicezero at gmail.com 
> > To: "Blake Haggerty" ; 
> > Cc: "sf-lug at linuxmafia.com" ; 
> > Sent: Oct 18, 2007 09:53:58 AM 
> > Subject: Re: [sf-lug] 32bit VS 64bit 
> > 
> > Your Nvidia issues should not be an issue in Ubuntu. Just use the 
> > proprietary drivers. There should be an option in the
> administration 
> > drop down for proprietary driver manager or something like that.
> You 
> > will not see any issues running the 32 bit version of Ubuntu. The
> two 
> > versions (32 and 64 bit) are fully operational and identical except 
> > for the addressing space and some small issues (with workarounds)
> like 
> > flash. As far as I know, there is no way to change between 32 and
> 64 
> > bit versions without reinstalling. There are only 2 benefits you
> will 
> > get from running 64 bit anyway: 1: address more than 4GB of RAM, 2: 
> > Performance boost for apps specifically written for a 64 bit OS. I 
> > run 64 bit Ubuntu 7.10 specifically for the RAM issue. 32 bit OSes 
> > cannot address more than 4GB and even at that, if there are
> multiple 
> > devices connected to the PCI bus, the address space shrinks further 
> > from 4GB down to the mid 3s. Is there a specific reason that you
> want 
> > to run 64 bit other than strictly for the sake of toying with it?
> By 
> > the way, today is the official release for 7.10 so enjoy! 
> > 
> > Ernest 
> > 
> > On 18 Oct 2007 11:39:59 -0400, Blake Haggerty < 
> > Blake.Haggerty at sapphire.com> wrote: 
> > I just did a major upgrade to one of my computers last night. 
> > Things seem to be going well (aside from a few NVIDIA driver 
> > issues). This may be a dumb question, but I am curious, With 
> > all my new stuff installed the computer is capable of running 
> > a 64bit version of Ubuntu. Because of that am I going to see 
> > issues continuing to run my old 32bit install?? Also are there 
> > anyways to upgrade to a 64bit version with out using a disk? 
> > IE update manager OR internet upgrade? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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